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Another possible plot twist: Wonder what would happen if the Errant on deck to be healed when Ian passed out decides (s)he doesn't want to wait for tomorrow, and wakes him up?

Insert vision of expanding, plasma-temperature cloud of Errant protoplasm here ...

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I just looked again and that "healing glow" is still all around Ian even as he is falling on the ground. Maybe he is not quite out of juice yet, just badly winded and Meji trying to talk to him distracted him a bit more than he expected. I have had similar things happen to me when working late shifts. I'll be working along just fine, tired as hell but you know, ok. Then some prick will come over and start talking and the extra energy expended while trying to formulate a response will sort of take away all my concentration. To me it seems like Ian is still concentrating on the task at hand, namely healing that poor sap standing in front of him. That could explain the slow unsure response he gave to Meji. I find that if people start talking when I'm that tired I have to make sure that nothing is going to explode and then turn and talk to them.

I'm sure that Ian will learn this vital skill sooner or later.

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Good point there, Gambit. (I hate it when my supervisor decides to make small talk...)


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Good point there, Gambit. (I hate it when my supervisor decides to make small talk...)


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Ah gender such a fun thing there was one culture that had 7 distincts ones on a scale of male to female once apparently.


You sure you're not just thinking of the <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale">Kinsey scale</A>?

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Ah gender such a fun thing there was one culture that had 7 distincts ones on a scale of male to female once apparently.


You sure you're not just thinking of the <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale">Kinsey scale</A>?


Actually, the Navajo have five distinct genders.

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Showing that even gods have a daily spell allotment. Ian should have slept 8 hours, but I guess knowing when to stop is ooc.

Ian is just lucky that casting spells past your limit isn't as deadly in this universe as some (just got done reading Eragon). Seriously, knowing your limits is the key to being a truly awesome hero... and, well, also being alive. Constantly hitting that limit to the point where you collapse just shows weakness, which is killing my respect for Ian.


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Insert vision of expanding, plasma-temperature cloud of Errant protoplasm here ...

Hehe, Ian subliming would seriously be unexpected.


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Showing that even gods have a daily spell allotment. Ian should have slept 8 hours, but I guess knowing when to stop is ooc.

Ian is just lucky that casting spells past your limit isn't as deadly in this universe as some (just got done reading Eragon). Seriously, knowing your limits is the key to being a truly awesome hero... and, well, also being alive. Constantly hitting that limit to the point where you collapse just shows weakness, which is killing my respect for Ian.


How can one surpass one's limits without continually testing them?


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Showing that even gods have a daily spell allotment. Ian should have slept 8 hours, but I guess knowing when to stop is ooc.

Ian is just lucky that casting spells past your limit isn't as deadly in this universe as some (just got done reading Eragon). Seriously, knowing your limits is the key to being a truly awesome hero... and, well, also being alive. Constantly hitting that limit to the point where you collapse just shows weakness, which is killing my respect for Ian.


How can one surpass one's limits without continually testing them?

Ahh, but there is a fine line between testing one's limits and going to the point of passing out unconscious. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems that magic creates exhaustion just as physical activity would. Not the same type, but you do probably feel the effects. I'm assuming you can feel your body slipping instead of just hitting a brick wall where your body/mind gives out. In that way, you can know your limits. Ian is just recklessly taking himself past his limit, and doing so is probably dangerous. Provided he DOES have the motivation to do this to himself.

Hehe, why do I think it's dangerous? Meji is concerned. When the fireball throwing psycho is concerned, you should be too.


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Insert vision of expanding, plasma-temperature cloud of Errant protoplasm here ...

Hehe, Ian subliming would seriously be unexpected.


Actually, the mental image I intended was of whoever woke him up being the one who gets heated to plasma temperatures by a ghoddess who doesn't like having her (Ian's) beauty sleep interrupted. Just consider what that would do to his standing with the crowd awaiting healing...

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BloodHenge wrote:
How can one surpass one's limits without continually testing them?


Eh, I'd tend to think of it more like exercise. If you're constantly working out to the point where you pass out, you'll be throwing up, injuring your muscles, and generally fucking up your body. The best way to work out is to consistently put yourself through a strain that you know is close to your limit (about 75-90% of what you can do) while still making sure that you stop when you know that you're asking your body for too much.

Of course, that doesn't seem to be the way that Ian's powers work, this probably being because they are metaphysical in nature. The difference between the two being that we don't consciously control the tearing and destruction of our own tissue, and the healing that occurs afterwords. We have only a vague idea of the complex operations going on within our own bodies as we exercise them and make ourselves stronger and healthier. However, Ian has at least implied that each time he works with the forces that he is controlling, he gains a better understanding of what they do. That means that he can work himself to the point where he collapses, and he still obtains a better understanding of how to control the flow of magic, simply by doing it.

That being said, I still don't think that what he is doing is the healthiest thing he could be doing. His understanding seems to grow by leaps and bounds every time he uses his powers, but I still think that he'd probably have a clearer idea if he took things slowly, pushing himself almost to that point where he knows he cannot go any furthur, instead of running headfirst over the edge.

After all, his behavior does remind one of the behavior of the gods in the creation myths we've heard so far. The gods in the mythology did truly amazing things, but afterwards they were so exhausted that they had to rest, and we've also seen that they made mistakes the first time around. Ian himself is still refining his powers, making mistakes and correcting them, and each time he must rest afterwards. Who knows if there is any correlation between the two, or if Ian will continue to walk the same path.

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So.. the ranks of the sentient gods would be Anilis, Senilis, Exitialis and Ian(is)?


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After all, his behavior does remind one of the behavior of the gods in the creation myths we've heard so far. The gods in the mythology did truly amazing things, but afterwards they were so exhausted that they had to rest, and we've also seen that they made mistakes the first time around. Ian himself is still refining his powers, making mistakes and correcting them, and each time he must rest afterwards. Who knows if there is any correlation between the two, or if Ian will continue to walk the same path.


Hmm I wonder... the gods did go into hibernation to rest. One would think that they would get up when they are ready. This might be some indication that Anilis was not yet ready to be awoken... though the implications of a crabby goddess who didn't get her beauty sleep are far from clear, it might have some relation to Ian's somewhat limited powers here.

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After all, his behavior does remind one of the behavior of the gods in the creation myths we've heard so far. The gods in the mythology did truly amazing things, but afterwards they were so exhausted that they had to rest, and we've also seen that they made mistakes the first time around. Ian himself is still refining his powers, making mistakes and correcting them, and each time he must rest afterwards. Who knows if there is any correlation between the two, or if Ian will continue to walk the same path.


Hmm I wonder... the gods did go into hibernation to rest. One would think that they would get up when they are ready.

Mebbe they died of old age before they were ready to wake up. Or at least their bodies died and their minds are stored somewhere.


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Mebbe they died of old age before they were ready to wake up. Or at least their bodies died and their minds are stored somewhere.


Hmm, interesting theory. One wonders how long-lived they'd have to be to see the dwarves die out and the elves come to dominate everything though, and why they could create an immortal race but were not immortal themselves. Or maybe they just shut off whatever it was that made them immortal while they slept, on purpose.

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How about they are immortal to begin with and just appeared in whatever forms they chose to better communicate with the creatures they created? Their real forms are likely formless masses of energy capable of transforming and inhabiting whatever they want.

However, something has occured to me. The devices surrounding Anilis' resting place were designed to keep elves OUT. Why would the gods want to keep elves OUT? I've begun to wonder if the Elven High Council knew where the gods were because they put them there a LONG time ago. After all, Sarine says the elves didn't like being told how to live...

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My interpretation of what was said by the council, to Sarine:

Gods go into stasis.
Elves find bubble.
Paedo-etc come out and annoy everyone.
Elves 'erect' perimeter defences to prevent any elves entering, lest they be annoyed.

And the rest, is history.


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