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With that power I'd be too busy blowing shit up with my vengeful wrath to think I could just resurrect somebody. I still gotta give Ian credit; he's not really too concerned with his well-being over Ev's at the moment, and all this "power corrupts" nonsense is way too overrated.

I mean, come on - if you or I had that power? Pfft, you know it'd be on, son.


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Mmmm.

I think Evelyn may come back as something decidedly unpleasant, with Ian passed out and Meji half-blinded by that light, which means that either

A) Meji kills her, and Ian doesn't know that he failed, or why, he just knows that Meji killed his sister

or B) Lyn wanders off to do some horrible shit, possibly killing Meji on the way, leaving Ian even more wracked with guilt

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Wow. Everybody seems to think That Ian will fail. Has he failed at anything yet? He found the uber power he was looking for, beat up a bunch of elves, found the book on his own, healed Leah on his first try (though with some rather nasty side effects) and everyone else on his second.

Why would he fail now?


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I'm pretty certain he'll succeed in raising something from the dead. That something may even vaguely resemble his sister. Beyond that, I'm certain that somehow, in some way, the whole thing will go awry.

But maybe I've just been watching too much Full Metal Alchemist.


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Meh. Ian is my hero at the moment. The thing I forsee happening is he does, in fact raise his sister, but not with her soul or whatever so she's a vej.

But as a writer I have to admit that this is a great opportunity for everything to go "fuck-all" and make everyone's lives a living hell until one of the main characters (or many of them) fight the final battle and blah-blah-blah in the true epic fantasy fashion. Nothing makes the reader keep reading like putting a favorite character in a situation where he's likely to die.

I just don't like the idea of Ian going--as Riley put it--"Nooooooooooooo."


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I'm pretty certain he'll succeed in raising something from the dead. That something may even vaguely resemble his sister. Beyond that, I'm certain that somehow, in some way, the whole thing will go awry.

But maybe I've just been watching too much Full Metal Alchemist.


Alternately, Ian could be completely successful in resurrecting Lyn, she'll be perfectly fine and fully alive again, everyone will find out about this and Ian will become world-renowned, and then the Elves will show up and... well, I wonder how much restraint Ian would show in the use of his newfound powers for war. And then somehow, somehow will have to stop him; those someones probably being centered around Sarine, thus likely also including Jon, and thus Sara, and probably Meji again by that point. Who wants to bet she winds up taking Senilis' god-juice in every hole, both as a means of fulfilling her quest and of trying to stop Ian? Plus, I wouldn't put it past Veracia to bring Luminosita into this either, and wouldn't it be great if ol' Lumi did turn out to be Exitalis after all, and we got a nice big god-reunion going in the end...

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Alternately, Ian could be completely successful in resurrecting Lyn, she'll be perfectly fine and fully alive again, everyone will find out about this and Ian will become world-renowned, ...


Yeah, I was wondering if anyone would suggest this.

Or maybe both of them will show up, chew Ian out royally for trying to drag them back to his horrible world. They explain that they like where they are now a whole lot better, so he should just go away and live his own life.

Then they'll ignore him and start talking to Anilis. They'll suggest that Meji would make a much better host. She just wants a little godly power to pass her final exam, after all.

So Meji/Anilis head back to her school to put on a real whiz-bang demo for everyone. Meji gets her degree. Anilis tells her to enjoy her life, and leaves to take another millennia-long nap. End of story.

Nah; probably not.

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Third: I've been trying to figure it out without much success, but how much time in the comic has passed?


Only a few months. It's not even been a year. Actually, it had better not have been a year or Meji's already failed her final.

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You know, Logic may have a point. What if Ian SUCCEEDS in ressurrecting Evelyn, and with no unfortunate side effects (like undeath)?


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You know, Logic may have a point. What if Ian SUCCEEDS in ressurrecting Evelyn, and with no unfortunate side effects (like undeath)?


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Third: I've been trying to figure it out without much success, but how much time in the comic has passed?


Only a few months. It's not even been a year. Actually, it had better not have been a year or Meji's already failed her final.


Well, she had three months to complete her final project, and it'd be a slight plot hole if it was never mentioned after all this time. I get the feeling it's been around a month, maybe two. But I'd like to know for sure.


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What if he brings his sister back, sans soul as a vegetable, but then gives her Meji's soul to complete the resurrection!?! There's some real opportunities for hot zombie incest sex there!


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I think the story has progressed FAR beyond the petty exam.

Meji has a veritable fucking god for a friend, if she could just rein him in, she'd be set for life.


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I just don't like the idea of Ian going--as Riley put it--"Nooooooooooooo."

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Third: I've been trying to figure it out without much success, but how much time in the comic has passed?


Only a few months. It's not even been a year. Actually, it had better not have been a year or Meji's already failed her final.


Well, she had three months to complete her final project, and it'd be a slight plot hole if it was never mentioned after all this time. I get the feeling it's been around a month, maybe two. But I'd like to know for sure.


Let see... Meji leaves Tsuiraku, meets Jon in Saus probably the next day; the two then walk to Emerylon (another day or two) and meet Ian; the three then flee Emerylon back to Saus on foot (another day or two); explosions ensue and they escape by slowboat to Farrell (another few days perhaps); Sarine joins the party and spends a day talking; I seem to recall at least two nights (one of them quite vividly) during the quest for the Big Magic Potato Thingy; Ian shows up again later that night after meeting the Pedo-fairies; the next day he and Meji are flying around and left for Santauriel (which I doubt took more than a day), and now it's been, what, two days in Santauriel?

So it's been about two weeks so far, unless I'm overlooking something. Man, this story moves almost as slow as MegaTokyo... no offense meant to either Poe or Piro. It's just surprising when you look back on something you've been following for over four years and realize that only two weeks of story time has elapsed.

It's also interesting to note that Ian only beat Meji to the magic potato because Meji was stuck on a slow-ass boat with Jon all the way from Veracia to Farrell, while Ian hopped a warp gate to Tsuiraku and then straight to Farrell; and also that Ian only beat them by a day, maybe two at most. Likewise, Sarine spent a day in Praeternublis Atsu and it probably took her a day at least to track down Jon again, even negating all travel time thanks to warp gates; and it must have taken Jon a day or two to get from that dinky town in south Farrell to his sniper's nest in Veracia, so the Sara-Jon-Sarine-Warrel showdown may actually be happening *right now* parallel to these events in Santauriel. Likewise, the Elven army may not have even left Praeternublis Atsu yet. The other thing that strikes me is that it must have taken Chris a few days at least to find the Ensigerum, so it's no wonder he's still a nobody there, getting his ass kicked... he's only been around a bit over a week.

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You know, Logic may have a point. What if Ian SUCCEEDS in ressurrecting Evelyn, and with no unfortunate side effects (like undeath)?


If he succeeds, then EVERYONE in the WORLD will want Ian's power. That is a recipe for disaster and an Elven council that wants him very dead.

I think there's a decent chance for success. The one I don't really see happening is him completely failing.

As for being spent, Ian almost passed out about an hour earlier in the day from mundane healing. He can't have much stamina left before going into a coma like he did post-Leah-healing or post-flight-into-Santuriel.

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I see him succeeding without any unfortunate side effects, only to bring the world after him. In the chaos that ensues, Evelyn dies AGAIN, causing Ian to lose the last bit of sanity left in him and go on an Elven purge.


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Wow. Everybody seems to think That Ian will fail. Has he failed at anything yet? He found the uber power he was looking for, beat up a bunch of elves, found the book on his own, healed Leah on his first try (though with some rather nasty side effects) and everyone else on his second.

Why would he fail now?


He isn't bringing his "A" game; he's coming out of a long day of a marathon-session of genetic-code rearranging. He's put zero thought into this on top of it; you can safely say what he is doing now compared to how it would be if he took a night to sleep on it and think over how'd he'd best approach this is like his effort to heal Leah (which damn near killed him and her) compared to his aforementioned marathon genetic-code rearranging session.

'Fools are the only folk on earth who can absolutely count on getting what they deserve'; Ian is approaching this like a fool. He's being sloppy and careless when he has no reason to be; he deserves to fail miserably.

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Timeline stuff.


You're making assumptions that you don't have to, and they're throwing you off. For one, we've got concrete data on how long it took the party to leg it from Emyrlon to Saus (one week). That implies two weeks solid just spent walking from Saus to Emyrlon and back again. In just about every one of Poe's "briefing" scenes you get a character referencing a major plot point, and how long ago it occured. Use those.

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I will laugh so hard if it works just fine and she comes back completely normal.



Now <i>that'd</i> throw some fuckers for a loop

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Just one other thing to think about: If this caper succeeds, won't it catch the attention of Exitialis, if he/she/it is still around?

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