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 Post subject: 3/19/07 what the fuck are goddamn elves doing
PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:33 am 
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So they DO know. How? And how dull is that. Much more fun if they thought Sara had deserted. Oh well.

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 Post subject: Re: 3/19/07 what the fuck are goddamn elves doing
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So they DO know. How? And how dull is that. Much more fun if they thought Sara had deserted. Oh well.


What are you talking about? This will be even more fun! The church of course can not prove a negative and will probably end up being manhandled by the order.


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I love the various reactions Anita has, especially the second panel.


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Poor guy doesn't get the recognition he deserves. ;(


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This is more to my liking, political plots and conspiracies ;)

*searches pockets for old betting lists*

Damn! Where did that list go?

Oh well, new game anyway ...

Standard practice among spookie types, always have a noninvolved observer for each major mission. If it goes pear-shaped, at least the observer can report the results, even if there are no survivors. Paul didn't make special mention of Jon carrying his sister away, although it had to have happened and there is no way that Paul couldn't know that. Are they going to assume that Sara will turn on them? That would fit some prior theories. :-3

I'll post odds after I track the Bookies down in Lausanne. They seem to have found a brothel down there. :roll:

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Little do they realise it's just Ian at the centre of this conflict.


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Maybe a follow-up monk used the same meditation technique Sara used when she had her flashback and that's how they know what happened.

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Poor Jon, all that awsomeness he pulled off and its just "An Elf did all the work while the assassin watched".

And BOY. If they didn't hate the Gewehr, they sure as hell do now, working with their enemies and all.

And is she being sarcastic about Elves jumping out and killing people? She hasn't seen what Sarine has been up to I guess.

Shoot, and this is going to get messy... All she sees is: More elves around, Pissed off church who sometimes works with elves, and an fucking elf ruined her little trap. She really is about to go off the handle since she's outta the loop about what Ian did.

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Shoot, and this is going to get messy... All she sees is: More elves around, Pissed off church who sometimes works with elves, and an fucking elf ruined her little trap. She really is about to go off the handle since she's outta the loop about what Ian did.


She doesn't know what Ian did, yet. That whole drama play, in Santauriel, hasn't even blipped her RADAR yet. Wait until that hits, she'll be ballistic!

Actually, she's generally way out of the loop anyway. She hasn't twigged yet that Sarine and Jon are not in close orbit around each other and are only erstwhile partners by neccessity. Note that she hasn't yet jumped to the obvious false conclusion that the Elves and Gewehr have started working together.

However, she did hit the false conclusion that Jon contributed nothing to the fight. Thus, underestimating the Gewehr yet again. Along with overestimating elves, that is something that she routinely does. It's her blind side. Whereas, Warrel's fatal error was in underestimating Sarine, while Sara completely mis-calculated her brother, who is a calculatingly clever old bastard.

The star of that fight was Jon, who figured out and executed the winning play. That wasn't luck, that was skill.

BTW, I've seen good life-long friendships built on less than what Sarine and Jon have between them.

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Another thing is that didn't happen was them thinking Sara betreyed them. Now what IS their information source? Some guy on top of the roof watching? Some informant that saw Jon and Sarine run off with sara over one shoulder? I think that would pretty much be all the infomation they have, and the rest is conjector, and they'd assume the Elf, not Jon, kicked ass in the fight. Funny.

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Poor Jon. So much hard work, and he still doesn't get any respect. I guess they didn't make a clean getaway, after all. People must have seen them leaving with the monk on Jon's shoulder.

It makes sense that people would assume the elf did all the work. After all, we're the only ones who know how much of a badass he is =P Would be nice to see what the Gewehr (where does the 'h' go?) higher ups think of the operation when the rumour hits them. And how they'll react towards the church. After all, the church did betray them, but they also want to work for it.

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... And there have been no small number of various elf sightings all over Veracia, starting with that disaster in Saus several months ago.

I think Meji has failed or is about to fail her senior project...


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Not on purpose. Anita did some seriously hard arm twisting.

Gewehr is German for 'rifle', it's in the Wiki.

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Anita and co sure seem to have an extensive spy network in place - to even know that something has the elves riled up is probably more than any other human group knows of. Put me down as another who would like to know where they get their information from.


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Anita and co sure seem to have an extensive spy network in place - to even know that something has the elves riled up is probably more than any other human group knows of. Put me down as another who would like to know where they get their information from.


Betcha that the Gewehr are equally aware. 8-)

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... And there have been no small number of various elf sightings all over Veracia, starting with that disaster in Saus several months ago.

I think Meji has failed or is about to fail her senior project...


Agreed. But then, she's got more to worry about than a project.

Also, doesn't this conversation make Sarine look like a lone nut? LOL.

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Agreed. But then, she's got more to worry about than a project.

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Damn. That's even worse than I thought possible. Those poor, poor, hunter-killer teams ranging out throughout the world, looking for Ian.

Apologies, Senko.

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Paul seems to be capable of conducting a fairly detached analysis of what happened, so I'm surprised he didn't notice one thing. "This could be Veracia trying to send us a message"? Doesn't fit the facts.

The most likely sources of information on what happened in the church are the church people -- Winston Maurel and his "assistant" who were obviously around for the failed hit, then escorted out by Sara. But if they're feeding the Ensigerum accurate information on the way the whole thing played out (and its accuracy can be confirmed by looking at the battle scene, etc.), how likely is it that the church has formed a secret alliance with the elves? Tipping the Ensigerum's hand to elf involvement would be the last thing they'd want to do.

Presumably Paul will figure this out eventually, rule out that possibility, and start converging on the actual truth. Of course, Anita being who she is, it probably won't matter.

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Paul seems to be capable of conducting a fairly detached analysis of what happened, so I'm surprised he didn't notice one thing. "This could be Veracia trying to send us a message"? Doesn't fit the facts.


I agree but for different reasons.

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The most likely sources of information on what happened in the church are the church people -- Winston Maurel and his "assistant" who were obviously around for the failed hit, then escorted out by Sara.


NOT escorted out by Sara. (scratch that. I just reread and caught your drift)

Last seen, Sara was nicely slumped over Jon's shoulder when they were asking themselves which one remembered the cat, as they were leaving. Sara is going to wake up in her older brother's tender care and then interrogated and guarded by an elf.

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But if they're feeding the Ensigerum accurate information on the way the whole thing played out (and its accuracy can be confirmed by looking at the battle scene, etc.), how likely is it that the church has formed a secret alliance with the elves? Tipping the Ensigerum's hand to elf involvement would be the last thing they'd want to do.


Ensigerum haven't had the time to 'process' the scene, yet. Besides, there were no church puppets inside the church during the last few moments. Jon and Sarine were alone with Sara.

I'm thinking more like that other guy, that the observation team was outside, on roof-tops. Of course, they could have been church flunkies too but still not inside with Jon and Sarine.

The Veracian Church may have made deals with the elves but the Ensigerum is what 'made' them and they know it. More, it seems that there are elves that want to keep the Ensigerum hidden from other elves, implying that the Ensigerum also have elven allies, even if they don't know it.

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Presumably Paul will figure this out eventually, rule out that possibility, and start converging on the actual truth. Of course, Anita being who she is, it probably won't matter.

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