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When I was married, we had about 10-20 cats at any one time, including a breeding queen. And with that came the fucking mountain of cat books and stuff. Shitloads of it. Most cat-owners have the aesthetics of the damned. You go to a major cat show and you'll find out. I hate cat books. Cat cartoons comes a close second. They're the lowest of the lowest. Want a make a few bucks at xmas? chuck out a cat book.

I'm not sure what you mean here, since I don't know the nature of the problem you're referencing, or what you believe the correct state of affairs would be...


sorry, I was in rant mode. Talking about cats can do that to me sometimes.

Mostly, I was wondering what you meant by "aesthetics of the damned", and what's wrong with "cat books" (or even what you consider a "cat book").


The phrase "aesthetics of the damned" has two sources for me.

One if the way cat-breeders model their animals according to a fixed aesthetic, a particular look. Nearly all pedigrees have medical problems, some due to small gene-pools, some due to physical deformities caused by the breeding programs. I regard cat shows as theatres of torture.

The other is the huge sentimentality invested in cats by a particular kind of cat-owner, one who substitutes cats for children, who seems to go into a kind of frenzy with the cat-stuff, the books, the toys, statuettes, foot-scrapers, pictures, sweat-shirts, socks, waist-coat, ties, etc etc. No matter the quality, aesthetic judgment seems to go out the window. Sentimentality wins throughout. Sentimentality also infects the book-market. It's known in the trade that cat books are a simple money spinner, particularly at christmas. Cat-owners seem to have little judgement when faced with a cute cat picture, or a book stuffed with cat pictures. But I suppose this happens when the hole in your life is filled by an object of affection, and if it's a cat, well. Of course, this doesn't mean that there aren't good books about cats. Or good tee-shirts with cats on them. With hindsight, I am being a little harsh. In my defense, I was knee-deep in cat -stuff at one stage and I did get a little ... freaky.

One of my least favourite memories of those years, is watching our queen eat one of her day-old kittens. Beside her, were the remnants of the others. Another of occassional "seeing" one of our cats I'd just buried. Another, I was digging a shallow grave and I sliced through the corpse of a previously buried cat.

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Wow, you really need to hook up with a dog-lover and get the cats out of your system for a while (not the show-going dog owner ofcourse).

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When I was married, we had about 10-20 cats at any one time, including a breeding queen. And with that came the fucking mountain of cat books and stuff. Shitloads of it. Most cat-owners have the aesthetics of the damned. You go to a major cat show and you'll find out. I hate cat books. Cat cartoons comes a close second. They're the lowest of the lowest. Want a make a few bucks at xmas? chuck out a cat book.

I'm not sure what you mean here, since I don't know the nature of the problem you're referencing, or what you believe the correct state of affairs would be...


sorry, I was in rant mode. Talking about cats can do that to me sometimes.

Mostly, I was wondering what you meant by "aesthetics of the damned", and what's wrong with "cat books" (or even what you consider a "cat book").


The phrase "aesthetics of the damned" has two sources for me.

One if the way cat-breeders model their animals according to a fixed aesthetic, a particular look. Nearly all pedigrees have medical problems, some due to small gene-pools, some due to physical deformities caused by the breeding programs. I regard cat shows as theatres of torture.

The other is the huge sentimentality invested in cats by a particular kind of cat-owner, one who substitutes cats for children, who seems to go into a kind of frenzy with the cat-stuff, the books, the toys, statuettes, foot-scrapers, pictures, sweat-shirts, socks, waist-coat, ties, etc etc. No matter the quality, aesthetic judgment seems to go out the window. Sentimentality wins throughout. Sentimentality also infects the book-market. It's known in the trade that cat books are a simple money spinner, particularly at christmas. Cat-owners seem to have little judgement when faced with a cute cat picture, or a book stuffed with cat pictures. But I suppose this happens when the hole in your life is filled by an object of affection, and if it's a cat, well. Of course, this doesn't mean that there aren't good books about cats. Or good tee-shirts with cats on them. With hindsight, I am being a little harsh. In my defense, I was knee-deep in cat -stuff at one stage and I did get a little ... freaky.

One of my least favourite memories of those years, is watching our queen eat one of her day-old kittens. Beside her, were the remnants of the others. Another of occassional "seeing" one of our cats I'd just buried. Another, I was digging a shallow grave and I sliced through the corpse of a previously buried cat.

I believe we are in agreement, then (although I wasn't quite so familiar with the commercial cat scene). I consider myself a cat-lover, but I realize that they aren't children, and I'd be perfectly happy adopting a stray (if I actually had a place I could keep a cat). And I probably won't be buying any books just for cat pictures; I can get those on the internet.


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I adopted a stray cat once. He was a solid gray kitten with yellow eyes. I named him Blitz after a GI Joe villain. He grew to be the size of a small panther.

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There are three strays that hang out in my grandmother's back yard because she puts food and water out for them. One's really friendly, but the other two seem kind of nervous.


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Awhile back my mom and aunt got the bright idea of taking care of about three strays that showed up on their porch. Turned out they were all females. And all pregnant. Two weeks later three cats became thirty. My uncle and I had to round 'em all up and haul them off to the Taco Mayo.

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A good cautionary tale... Two of the strays at my grandmother's house are females, and the other is male...


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I believe we are in agreement, then (although I wasn't quite so familiar with the commercial cat scene). I consider myself a cat-lover, but I realize that they aren't children, and I'd be perfectly happy adopting a stray (if I actually had a place I could keep a cat). And I probably won't be buying any books just for cat pictures; I can get those on the internet.


I like strays and non-pedigrees. We used to rescue cats, and that's a satisfying feeling, although keeping them to one or two is good :wink: As soon we'd rescue them, we'd neuter them, get them injected etc etc. Neutering is good.

I even have the odd cat picture on my hard-drive, particularly ones from 4chan. They amuse me no end.

Also

http://kittenwar.com/

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I bet you enjoyed the acid neuter arrow then. Nice picture too is that a fox or a racoon of some kind?


That's a cat cuddling a mouse :-D

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Cuddling? Not strangling it in the grip of death? I guess it's one of those civilised spoiled cattered-front-and-rear-couldn't-catch-a-cold cats.

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Cuddling? Not strangling it in the grip of death? I guess it's one of those civilised spoiled cattered-front-and-rear-couldn't-catch-a-cold cats.


the original caption said "stupid cat" but I don't believe it. I think it's inter-species sex. Speaking of which, and bringing the thread slightly back on topic, can anyone remember Howard Chaykin's American Flagg? That had a red-haired talking cat (with bionic hands) who was a major character. He became Mayor of Chicago. Raul, I think he was called. Liked chat-shows. The connection is that Raul used to watch a TV program called inter-species sex. If I knew less crap, I swear I'd've a better job :wink:

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<a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=447527&in_page_id=1770">bus cat</a> Warning: it's the daily mail so approach with caution

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Incidently do guys really just measure who's is longer instead of discussing things?


No.

Jon is turning a stupid stereotyped quasi-explanation for male behavior on its head in order to make his own personal point about Sarine and Sara fighting.

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Incidently do guys really just measure who's is longer instead of discussing things?


Yes.


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I think you mean:

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No.

Jon is turning a stupid stereotyped quasi-explanation for male behavior on its head in order to make his own personal point about Sarine and Sara fighting.

Fixed.


I meant what I posted.

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Killjoy wrote:
I think you mean:

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Yes.

Fixed.


I meant what I posted.


And I wholly agree.


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Zherical wrote:
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I think you mean:

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Yes.

Fixed.


I meant what I posted.


And I wholly agree.


Indeed.

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I don't get the appeal of misquoting people. Maybe I'll try it to see what makes it so fun.

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I'm a gutless worthless little turd who thinks it's funny to misquote people to make it look like they share my juvenile purile ignorant opinion on something.


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I'm a gutless worthless little turd who thinks it's funny to misquote people to make it look like they share my juvenile purile ignorant opinion on something.


Huh. Still a mystery.

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Not misquoting, 'correcting' people, but it should be done in bold so you know what's what.

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Not misquoting, 'correcting' people, but it should be done in bold so you know what's what.


It's still misquoting. Putting another name on it doesn't make it OK. I guess I just come from a subculture where people's words matter and it's the height of fucktardary to mess with the words in that manner.

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