ZOMBIE FORUMS

Wait, another thing, Saras been killing Humans and Orcs for awhile now I assume. The whiping out the Wraiths early in the story looked like it was nothing bit, just a normal "Kill people" thing that they do all the time, and Sara really doesn't have (or is expected to have) a problem with killing people. So what the fug is Warrel trying to be clear on?

"Tomorrow we're are going to KILL people sara. In cold blood. I don't know if you understand what it means to TAKE A LIFE!"

Doubt it. So were they DUMB enough to tell Sara about her brother BEFORE the mission? That... would be rather stupid, since she would have time to plan, not to mention try and prepare herself. In the heat of the moment in a fight, she may do things differently, which is what the Time-Ninjas may need to worry about...

Either way, Warrels going on some exposistion, so can't be too horrible.

Have you thought about what would happen if they haven't told her, she sees her brother and just freezes in the fight? Perhaps they're afraid if they don't tell her she'll flip switches in a fight and sort of shut down.

But if they tell her before hand she can reflect on how they've trained her, fed her, sheltered her and are now prepaired to make her one of their own, while her brother dropped her off at an orphanage as soon as his mother died. She might resent him, maybe hate.

Telling her before hand would probably be the easiest way to judge how she'll handle the situation than just going "kill this guy." "Who is he?" "You'll see. I think you'll like it. It will be FUNNY."

But...it would be funny! Practical fatal jokes are just a riot!

Since the whole purpose of sending her to kill her brother is to find out whether she's loyal to the village, NOT telling her she's off to kill her brother would defeat the whole purpose of sending her.

If they tell her and she is not loyal... well, worst case scenarion, she messes up the ambush, kills some other timemonks and vanishes with her brother. Hurts, but better now than a few years in the future when she's even more powerful.

If she does pull through, well, you have someone who killed her brother in cold blood because the village asked it. And as said, while the first reaction is probably 'Oh noes, my brother!!11' after some time, sleeping in a house of the vil;lage, eating food of the village and talking to the people in the village she grew up with, she might decide to go through with it anyway.

COmpare to that if you surprise her. True... if she decides at the time that she doens't want anything to do with that, she's unprepared and probably easier to dispatch. But the drawbacks are severe. For one, while she might just do it under the stress, she might also refuse when suddenly confronted with her brother (see 'oh noes, my brother!!11' above)

And even if she DOES pull through, what do you know? That you can press her to do something she wouldn't like in the short term. That's not loyalty. You can't built on that. Worse, even if she WAS loyal and would have been willing to do it if you asked, now she might resent you for what you made her do, or at the very least her trust in you is damaged. Of course, now she has UNLIMITED time to plan a horrible, horrible vengeance. Considering the point of the exercise was to make sure she can be TRUSTED, that's not really a success.

So, the Ensignerum made the right decision except for one tiny thing. This mission is WAY TOO IMPORTANT to add unknown factors to the mix. Sure it's handy to test Sara's loyalty, and yeah it's traditional, but if Sara turns, and Jon escapes, the Ensignerum look like total incompetent twats and the Wraiths look like ultra-leet killers. Not something you wnat to happen after your leader just basically told the Veracian Patriarch 'You don't have the guts to wipe us out, but we want the Wraith destroyed (possibly implied, we consider the Wraith a danger to us)"

Of course, from what we've seen of the Ensignerum, it does sound like something they'd do. They're rather overconfident in their abilities, so they don't entertain the possibility they could lose against a Wraith with element of surprise on their side, even with a possible liability with them.

Me? I predict their village is gonna be ashes before the end of the story. Possibly done by a shitload of Veracian troopers, well positioned Wraith snipers or a mix of the two.

This needs to be a comic. Perhaps a pornified companion to Errant Story, narrated by Bimbo?

I don't think so. At least, not with Veracian troopers or Gewehr. Ian might do it though, although he doesn't have a reason, yet.

The chruch ain't got the stones and Gewehr don't have the motive, yet. In an open fight, the time ninjas are pretty tough. Snipers, by surprise, is the only thing that got one the last time and that probably won't work again. Sarine and Ian are the only ones that I can see take on a time ninja head on. It would be a tough fight for Sarine but a cakewalk for Ian.

...Or Jon could go Super Sayain and kill everyone with a bowel movement.

Seconded.

Thirded.

Ha, I'm clever.

Actually, if the elves had some sort of decent battle strategy and a way to nullify the time magic, they just might be the equal of the Time Ninjas. After all, they've been working with lancea blades and cast magic since the beginning... the humans only have a few measly decades to master the skills of using them. Plus the Ensigerum don't seem to be used to working as a large unified force, while the armies are ostensibly used to that AND one-on-one combat.

Sarine is just one individual, living in a unique set of circumstances compared to the rest of the elves. She may not be anywhere near as badass as we've been giving her credit for. While she's certainly proven herself to be superior against mere humans, a crazy half elf, an apparently exsplosion-fond half elf, an isolated elf, and a baby elf, we haven't seen her up against anyone who might have stayed behind in Praenubilus Astu and spent a lot of time playing with magic and durus flamma blades. There's really no way we can use her to judge the capabilities of the rest of the elves.

Edit: Perhaps if we ever go with a supplementary subscription service short hentai omake could be included. I kinda doubt it, but you never know.

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I assume she's better than the common elf, or even a soldier elf for sheer experience. She's one of the few elves who chose to travel outside their "wall-of-magicks" and kill people on a regular basis, so she has to be somewhat efficient at it.

I've never liked the idea of one race being superior to the other, physically. I like the idea that if one strived hard enough, you can do anything. The human body adapts to it's surroundings and I have a hard time thinking that elves, for some reason, don't.

If you sit on your ass all day you don't need a ton of muscle, so you lose some.

Why are elves stronger than humans? Do they have an advanced exercise routine they all do every morning that keeps their muscles iron corded?

Then again magic is in the story so I might as well throw up my hands and grumble.

Why should Sara have to kill her brother to proof she is now loyal ? I totally agree that she would hate that person who asked her to proof her loyality by killing his own brother, who would even want such kind of proof anyways ? Well unless it is crucial in ritual of pabtising her to a new clan and break the blood and emotional bonds to her previous sec, cult, religion, country whatever spiritual sense of belongness ?

I have to confess I not that much following to know why she wants to join a new clan anyways, is she having a mission, is she appointed by God or got a vision she must go out there to accomplish something then ?

If I knew why she want to go away from her brothers tribe then I could no better

Not to be obvious or anything... but there are significant differences in ability and physical makeup that have nothing to do with the actions of the individual, even looking just at humans.

For example, some people are born with much higher metabolisms than others. I know people who never have to exercise and just plain stay pencil thin even eating garbage all day every day. But even when I was pretty careful about what I ate, and ran regularly, I still gained weight (this is probably why I rarely worry about diet and exercise today... if it's not going to do me any good anyways, why stress about it?)

The same is true of many other things... some people get wrinkles early, others don't. Some people are really flexible without ever trying, others aren't. Some people can naturally lift a lot of weight but rarely lift more than a pencil, while others work out daily and can't lift as much as you'd think. Some people are predisposed to cancer, heart failure, diabetes, or psychological disorders... others aren't.

I'm not saying it's impossible to improve ourselves through hard work (except that sometimes our bodies dictate that we can't... for example all the hard work in the world won't keep you from getting diabetes or bipolar disorder), but I am saying that it is perfectly reasonable to presuppose that one race of beings would be naturally stronger than another, or better at magic, or less likely to age simply because they lucked out genetically... Our experience demonstrates this amply already even within just familial lines.

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Yeah, its quite frustrating actually if you allow yourself to think too far away like that (which I have tendency too much umm idle time is devil's performance time for your entertainment...) I use to think sometimes that forinstance iceskaters or balette dancers, some people have it in them and others dont have it, but yet you have to start these things at early childhood age and you spend like most of your ffing time to practise and practise--only at the end of the growing process to learn or find out that "you dont have that magic ingredient in you"

If everybody would think this pessimistically nobody would lift a finger to do a Jill, sometimes I wonder if the communist spirit inside of me wins me but as I recognise it as that spirit I deny it and get energy just to fight against it, lol !!! I know it sounds funny but to me its a reality sometimes

I still wanted to talk about this that some people naturally can do something while others dont, do you think that sometimes its a state of mind, you should ask yourself WHY are you doing this do you really want to do it, or who are you doing it for or what is your driving force.

I mean that sometimes if we think about something too much it appears you never get it, and maybe that is exactly why you dont get it because you want it too much. For instance naturally thin people are thin because they dont think about food all the time, they have something else to think about that occupies their mind, sometimes this is something that you learn from home or from people you move with and you cant really help it we ppl are cettle animals and want to assimilate (or whatever that word was) with the people we are surrounded with and want to have that sense of belonging.

Sometimes the eating habbit is just a sort of act of sense of belonging if that is the way your parents have a relationship with food that you always eat for fun because there is nothing else to do or you comfort yourself with food when you are sad or you celebrate with food when you are happy or something or then the thin person is used to that at his or her home people were active in some other way and food is only something that you must eat in order to survive but nothing else.

But muscle growth, why would somebody grow muscle when he dont need to do much excercise at all while other person will do everything there is to do to grow muscle mass since early youth - I dont know why ?

Suddenly I remember a story where a person is confronted with a hungry attacking lion inside a long fenced cage and is able to perform inhumanly fast and powerful leap over the fence that nobody would be able to do in normal instance not even (or most especially) sports persons because are after all too limited to expectations, how far a person could go if he or she didnt limit her or himself with thoughts and expectations of others ?

Another story I have also read sometimes about somebody's child being in jeaopardy and the person was able to lift a car or something while he or she dont even lift weights or has any strength at all but the sudden urgen need did pile up ummm what is that thing now called endorfphine or whatever hormone that gives you power at once a lot ... how did the scientists ever explained that or has the bodybuilders been considering this idea at all that how could a ordinary person lift as much as well trained bodybuilder ?

I dont even know if this is just a urban story but I dont find it hard to beleif, people can do lot of miraculous stuff when they are impact with faith and courage which is quite cool thing !!!

Eh? Eh?

Pretty sure the Ensigerum have been around since the fall of Elven dominion.

There are biological and actuarial factors involved. The elves are perpetually youthful. This means that, however much they look and sound like homo sapiens, their tissues, hormones, etc., aren't operating exactly like ours. They are constantly expending energy (natural or magical) to prevent the incremental tissue degeneration that humans accept as the natural process of aging. That should mean that they heal faster and have greater reserves of energy that could be channeled into, say feats of prodigious strength and speed.

Another good reason why they would be superior: beating the odds. If you took a population of, say, 1000 humans, and put them in a fixed environment (enchanted forest, hidden city, "closed community," Stepford suburbs, whatever) there is going to be a death rate, albeit a small one, from accidents and natural events. Things like fire, flood, falling down stairs, falling trees, etc.) If you set a rate of "death by misadventure" at 5% over fifty years, then upgrade the population from an adult lifespan of 5 decades to 100 decades, the odds on there being any number of elves in the 2000 or 3000 year clubs are fairly small. Morever, there has to be birth rate of 5% per 50 yrs to keep up the population, even without wars.

If you're going to postulate a community of elves all over a millenium old and births every 200 yrs or so, they have to be far faster, smarter, and stronger than humans just to survive the centuries.

Of course, slaughtering catgirls at the current rate may well wipe out that species.

Think of it this way:
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