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Gone with the blastwave is pretty funny. THanks for the link!


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And I personally think Warrel was looking to disable and not kill, but Sarine wasn't about to make it easy for him.


Ding ding ding. We have a winner. I think Warrel was looking to slightly maim Sarine JUST because he wanted to toy with an elf to stroke his ego. Paralyzing her wouldn't be fun for him, which is why he went for a leg shot first and boasted. It's not a question of if he could or if he did. More of a question of, would he really do that?


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Well there's always the possibility she had some form of Mage Armor spell up (or Armor of Ithan, if you want to discuss it in Rifts terms like vibro blades). Either way, my point is, Sarine could have cast an invisible shield that did stop some of the impact of the blade.

I don't care to argue that specific point, but there's enough possible explanations for why it didn't sever her that arguing it is pointless.

Not that pointlessness has ever prevented an argument from taking place online.

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http://www.errantstory.com/wiki/index.php/Durus_Flamma

Durus Flamma wiki page.

Magcially enhanced vibroblades. Nuff said.

The downside must not affect humans, or their time phreaking allows them to cope with the inhanced sensory input. Actually, upon thinking about it. The enhanced senses probably help them keep up with their faster time frame.


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She goes and drops the armor to prepare for her new badassness, and then gets her butt kicked the first shot out of the gate. The irony makes me laugh.



If she had been wearing her armor, the only diference is she'd be that much slower, that much more tired, and healing herself would be complicated by having her body colonized with metal shards.

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She goes and drops the armor to prepare for her new badassness, and then gets her butt kicked the first shot out of the gate. The irony makes me laugh.


If she had been wearing her armor, the only difference is she'd be that much slower, that much more tired, and healing herself would be complicated by having her body colonized with metal shards.


Agreed, it's the reason that soldiers stopped wearing armor. Of course, now that we have better armor than thin steel plate, we're starting to wear it again. However, if she keeps running into Durus Flamma wielding foes then she might as well stop wearing the conspicuous (I'm a bad ass warrior elf) armor.

[geez, I wonder if a Durus Flamma can cut through Dragon Scale?]

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From the looks of how easily a duras flamma cuts through things, I don't even think adamantium would stand up to it, so it'd probably go through dragonscale like a hot knife through butter.


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Besides, monomolecular whips and blades are pure science fantasy bullshit (sorry, pet peeve about that crap showing up in cyberpunk works all the time).

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From the looks of how easily a duras flamma cuts through things, I don't even think adamantium would stand up to it, so it'd probably go through dragonscale like a hot knife through butter.


In the Star Wars extended universe there was some kind of stuff that would make a lightsabre "short circuit." it was essentially useless as armor against any other form of weapon because it was kinda like asbestos, fibers of some kind of crystal. I'm betting that the elves have some kind of similar defense against the Durus Flamma blades. Only humans would create a weapon that cannot be defended against. (nuclear bombs anyone...)

The blades are damn sharp and damn dangerous, but i'm thinking that they may be a bit fragile for long term real battle use.

Normal swords, at least in this world, would often be completely destroyed in the course of one battle. That's why a knight would have to replace his weapons after every fight. Even if they were not totally wrecked the amount of damage taken by a sword in a fight would render it effectively useless as its cutting edge would often be chipped to hell.

If the Durus Flamma is a thin blade it would chip even more easily if banged off another Durus Flamma blade. in essense, they would be a sort of useless weapon against themselves, block one time and destroy your enemy's weapon, but also destroys yours. that could explain why the Ensignerium use double bladed durus flamma staff thingies. even if one blade is destroyed, they'll have another..

Now if a Durus Flamma blade is made of pure "magic" or "Chi" or some kind of mystical energy crap then destroying it would be essentially impossible without first destroying the source of that energy.


On a minor side note since someone was comparing lightsabers to Flamma blades. lightsabers are not edged weapons as the flamma blades appear to be. They are instead totally round/cylindrical projections of energy, they have no edges but can cut almost anything. I remember reading something about how the Jedi liked the idea of a weapon that had no edge because it made them feel more in tune with the force... I also remember reading that the lightsaber emmits no heat under normal operating conditions and that if a saber was emmiting heat it was probably about to explode.

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Poe has covered some of this, the crystal of the Durus Flamma is quite fragile when magic is not running through it, which is why the extend-o crystal version was developed. Active crystals are quite sturdy and we've received no information on effective physical defense against them.

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Obviously to keep us on our toes. GJ, Poe.


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Poe has covered some of this, the crystal of the Durus Flamma is quite fragile when magic is not running through it, which is why the extend-o crystal version was developed. Active crystals are quite sturdy and we've received no information on effective physical defense against them.


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Not to mention, the monks have been deflecting bullets with them several times. Warrel blocked about 4 gun rounds and one rifle round with his, and it showed no signs of receiving any damage at all. So they're not fragile.

The question of what would happen if two clash though is interesting. It's also been answered in the first few strips, way back at the beggining, in Sarine's flashback about how his hummy got killed. The guy was blocking with his durus sword the durus lance of a monk. So they can be used to parry against themselves, and take no damage from it.

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Depends on the dragon I guess, different types and sources have different strength's of hide. Some would be easier to damage than adamantium while others would be harder. The main problem with making armour out of them being convincing the dragon to give some of it up and then working it into a viable suit of armour.


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Maybe it's made from the body of Anilis....[creepy ooooooOOOOOoooooo]

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Normal swords, at least in this world, would often be completely destroyed in the course of one battle. That's why a knight would have to replace his weapons after every fight. Even if they were not totally wrecked the amount of damage taken by a sword in a fight would render it effectively useless as its cutting edge would often be chipped to hell.


This is generally not true of Tachi, Wakazashi, Katana, etc. They were designed to survive hundreds of battles. In europe, foils, epee, sword-rapiers, and sabers were laso expected to last more than one go. What you describe is more applicable to broadwords and the like from before the 15-16th century. Generally, the quality of the steel got better.

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Could be worse. I hear the bronze age weaponry used to bend mid-swing.


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Dragons are reptiles, would it not make sense that they shed their skin?

and thus might sell bits to extend their hoard?


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Besides, monomolecular whips and blades are pure science fantasy bullshit (sorry, pet peeve about that crap showing up in cyberpunk works all the time).


What, no glass knives?

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Do dragons even exist in poeverse?

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