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From random clues, and what Sarine said about the relative speed of growth between the species.

I'd hazard a less than educated guess at 50 years would be 'adult' to an elf.

At 16, Meji looks like a 13 year old. Teenager, but a young teenager. By 25, she should be a full adult.

Fast = 2x? I don't know, I'm ballparking it, but I think 50 years sounds about right.


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What the fuck are you taking about?
Misa is 1500 years old and she is floating somewhere around the 'barely legal' zone.

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I doubt it, Sarine was Hitched and had a baby(Kinda) at 1000. The whole group of elves is kinda in status, so we don't know what the 'average' age was during the big hey-days of elves are awsome. I guess the oldest, around since before humans were around, could of been around 5000 years old? Sarine mentions that 1500 isn't excatly a good age to be fooling around with grab-ass like she was doing.

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Looks to me like we have some conflicting data. It might very well be that each elf matures at their own rate rather than some racial standard. Or each elven race might have had their own set rate somewhat different from all others and this gets further confused once the different groups started interbreeding and then inbreeding. Or, since their biology is largely magic maintained, aging might well be a matter of choice or be at the whim of some inner will or such bullshit.

But we are grasping at straws here and won't be getting anywhere anytime soon without a work of Poe.

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We could go with another option:

The elven kids mature normally until they hit puberty. From there they start to age at a much slower rate. Once they get through their prolonged puberty, the bodies age even slower, which is why Sarine is pushing 3K but doesn't look anything older than 35 at the max.

Half-elves react the same way purebloods do, but the timeframes are cut drastically with the introduction of human genetic properties for short-ass lives in comparison to the long-eared fuckers.

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On this subject of maturation rates, the widely-held concept of a century or longer until physical maturity is just plain silly. It's rediculous.

Think about it for a minute.

It's not pratical or feasible...what species could survive while bearing offpring entails caring for an infant for 10+ years, a toddler for 10+ years, etc, etc, etc.

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On this subject of maturation rates, the widely-held concept of a century or longer until physical maturity is just plain silly. It's rediculous.

Think about it for a minute.

It's not pratical or feasible...what species could survive while bearing offpring entails caring for an infant for 10+ years, a toddler for 10+ years, etc, etc, etc.

To repeat a point I made from the other thread: Elves didn't evolve, they were created. Their biology can have any damn fool quirk the Gods decided to give them. That said, there is no practical reason for a created race to take a century to reach physical maturity, and any number of reasons (you imply some important ones) why this would be a pointless burden on the created society.

Ye Gawds of Khaos and Despair, who would want to be a teenager and suffer perpetual hormone poisoning for twenty or thirty years? And who could stand to be around someone like that without taking an ax to them somewhere between year six and ten?

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On this subject of maturation rates, the widely-held concept of a century or longer until physical maturity is just plain silly. It's rediculous.

Think about it for a minute.

It's not pratical or feasible...what species could survive while bearing offpring entails caring for an infant for 10+ years, a toddler for 10+ years, etc, etc, etc.


Many catgirls died to bring you this theory.

Perhaps the Elvish maturation rate is not just a linear multiplication of the Human maturation rate (i.e. an Elf will appear to be the same age as a Human half his age). In fact, we know that that's not the case, as Sarine has been of young-adult appearance for the past 2,000 years.

One alternate possibility is that Elves mature (grow into adulthood) at the same rate as humans and then simple don't age (whither to death) afterwards. However, this is falsified by the fact the half-elves mature more slowly than humans, and Sarine says that they matured quickly compared to Elves. So Elves definitely *do* mature at a delayed rate.

I would hypothesize that Elves begin to mature from conception at the same rate as humans, and that that rate then declines as the years go by. That is, the difference in physical maturity between human and elven 1-year-olds is small (Elf kid still appears about a year old); between 10-year-olds is noticeable (Elf kid appears maybe 7 years old); between 100-year-olds is incredible (Elf appears maybe 20 years old); between 1000-year olds is incomparable (the human would be dead by hundreds of years; the Elf appears maybe 25 years old). In other words, Elven maturation decelerates as they approach maturity, and beyond a certain age just isn't noticeable at all.

Given the various references to Meji's apparent age and actual age made in the comic (e.g. how old Bani thought she was when they met, how old people think she is now, etc), we could probably compute the exact formula to graph half-elves' age discrepancy from humans' (plotting human maturity as a linear graph, where apparent age = actual age, since "apparent" is by human standards here), and then use that as the basis to figure a probably aging rate for full Elves.

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Killjoy wrote:
On this subject of maturation rates, the widely-held concept of a century or longer until physical maturity is just plain silly. It's rediculous.

Think about it for a minute.

It's not pratical or feasible...what species could survive while bearing offpring entails caring for an infant for 10+ years, a toddler for 10+ years, etc, etc, etc.


Holy God do I wish people would start spelling it right.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ridiculous

Ridiculous. Like Ridicule. As in, the ridicule that I must restrain myself from bringing upon people every time they spell ridiculous that way.

Sorry Killjoy, I've just seen nearly 17 people spell it that way on this form alone, and countless others on nearly every other forum in existence.

GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.

Also, why is it so illogical that a superhumanly capable, magic wielding species with perfect health and no genetic defects who also happen to be pretty much the sole rulers of an entire planet would be inconvenienced AT ALL by lugging around a kid for a hundred years? Especially if said species happens to have a damn near limitless lifespan, so doing something "new" for a hundred years wouldn't seem like that big of a deal.

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What does it all matter anyway? The gods didn't make the elves perfect and they made humans so they could create a replacement...as Coquette almost reveals.

A replacement for what? For elves? For the other races? Or is that humans are replacement bodies for gods? Ian was able to take in Anilis, since he's half-human. Will he eventually "burn out" on Anilis? Would a normal human "burn out"?

So many unanswered questions. But clearly, the gods created humans to correct the imperfections of elves, allowing humans to breed more rapidly while shortening their lifespans so they didn't become as bored as the elves.

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What does it all matter anyway? The gods didn't make the elves perfect and they made humans so they could create a replacement...as Coquette almost reveals.

A replacement for what? For elves? For the other races? Or is that humans are replacement bodies for gods? Ian was able to take in Anilis, since he's half-human. Will he eventually "burn out" on Anilis? Would a normal human "burn out"?

So many unanswered questions. But clearly, the gods created humans to correct the imperfections of elves, allowing humans to breed more rapidly while shortening their lifespans so they didn't become as bored as the elves.


An interesting, and credible theory.

True, people in this world see lost time as a waste, for an elf? I bet they could probably take a break from working for a hundred years before they decide to move again.

One final thing: webcomics never have fat people.

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... come on, it's so obvious.


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On this subject of maturation rates, the widely-held concept of a century or longer until physical maturity is just plain silly. It's rediculous.

Think about it for a minute.

It's not pratical or feasible...what species could survive while bearing offpring entails caring for an infant for 10+ years, a toddler for 10+ years, etc, etc, etc.


Holy God do I wish people would start spelling it right.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ridiculous

Ridiculous. Like Ridicule. As in, the ridicule that I must restrain myself from bringing upon people every time they spell ridiculous that way.

Sorry Killjoy, I've just seen nearly 17 people spell it that way on this form alone, and countless others on nearly every other forum in existence.

GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.


It was a typo.

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One final thing: webcomics never have fat people.

Some do.


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On this subject of maturation rates, the widely-held concept of a century or longer until physical maturity is just plain silly. It's rediculous.

Think about it for a minute.

It's not pratical or feasible...what species could survive while bearing offpring entails caring for an infant for 10+ years, a toddler for 10+ years, etc, etc, etc.


Many catgirls died to bring you this theory.


All catgirls must die. :billnye:

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Every single person who mispells ridiculous, ever. wrote:

It was a typo.


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Keep telling yourself that

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What does it all matter anyway? The gods didn't make the elves perfect and they made humans so they could create a replacement...as Coquette almost reveals.

A replacement for what? For elves? For the other races? Or is that humans are replacement bodies for gods? Ian was able to take in Anilis, since he's half-human. Will he eventually "burn out" on Anilis? Would a normal human "burn out"?

So many unanswered questions. But clearly, the gods created humans to correct the imperfections of elves, allowing humans to breed more rapidly while shortening their lifespans so they didn't become as bored as the elves.


An interesting, and credible theory.

True, people in this world see lost time as a waste, for an elf? I bet they could probably take a break from working for a hundred years before they decide to move again.

One final thing: webcomics never have fat people.

A dick-chick is weird, but *it* ain't fat.


Jeramel was kind of chunky...

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bellofthedamned wrote:
What does it all matter anyway? The gods didn't make the elves perfect and they made humans so they could create a replacement...as Coquette almost reveals.

A replacement for what? For elves? For the other races? Or is that humans are replacement bodies for gods? Ian was able to take in Anilis, since he's half-human. Will he eventually "burn out" on Anilis? Would a normal human "burn out"?

So many unanswered questions. But clearly, the gods created humans to correct the imperfections of elves, allowing humans to breed more rapidly while shortening their lifespans so they didn't become as bored as the elves.


You got that mixed up. Coquette didn't have any idea who made the humans or why, only that they seemed to be like half-elves things that possessed both dwarf and elf traits (my big vote is humans are all-natural, and what the gods based their experiments off of. My second vote is they were the Dwarves last-ditch attempt at creating a genetic legacy for themselves). The Elves were suppossed to be a "replacement-", and then Copulation interupted her with the genocidal-narcissist-worldview-causing bullshit the elves got foisted on them.

You know, I'm prepared to give the Trolls a lot of respect, seeing how they reportably wouldn't put up with the paedagousi's Uplift 2.0 program even a little bit.

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Oops, you caught me! I didn't get to edit my post before I realized my mistake.

You're right, elves are the replicas or replacements, depending on the end of Kawaii's sentence. As for humans, who knows? Maybe they were naturally occuring, or created by something else.

I have a silly and improbable theory though. Seeing as how Senilis isn't anywhere near Anilis, and the two seemed to be a pair, perhaps Senilis is gone for good, perhaps after battling with Exitialis over the creation of humans? In the end, maybe Ani and Seni were beaten by Exi, but humans were created and Ani was exhausted, so she went to "sleep".

Maybe her awakening could herald the end of humanity, except that she chose a half-human host, which will likely create a whole bunch of disaster.

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