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There's a good article on skins in Wikipedia that you two should check out. The term originated in Britain and is still very widely used today, not just on eps in L&O. I dated one, I've heard the whole spiel.

They're definitely political and certainly not the kinds of people you want to get in a tiff with, but they're definitely not all nazis. in fact, most of the skinheads i met were far from it. Racist? to a point, but no more so than most people. They're just not shy about their opinions. (my old history teacher once said something along the lines of: You never know what kind of thoughts are lurking inside of your head until you are provoked. You may not think you have any issues with eskimos, but wait til one cuts you off on the highway.)

From what I understand, most of the scary skinheads are in the UK anyway.


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Well, that would be resourceful. Would you use your legs for something like an automatic ass kicking machine? Good lord look what a Kharisma themed thread did with my thought processes, aargh!


Ooo! No! You could turn your amputated legs into a back massage machine. BAsed on those chinese massage practices where they walk on your back.

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There's a good article on skins in Wikipedia that you two should check out. The term originated in Britain and is still very widely used today, not just on eps in L&O. I dated one, I've heard the whole spiel.

They're definitely political and certainly not the kinds of people you want to get in a tiff with, but they're definitely not all nazis. in fact, most of the skinheads i met were far from it. Racist? to a point, but no more so than most people. They're just not shy about their opinions. (my old history teacher once said something along the lines of: You never know what kind of thoughts are lurking inside of your head until you are provoked. You may not think you have any issues with eskimos, but wait til one cuts you off on the highway.)

From what I understand, most of the scary skinheads are in the UK anyway.


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From what I understand, most of the scary skinheads are in the UK anyway.


There are a few of 'em in the states, though. I knew a guy in high school who started off as a punk, than became a skin who was always talking about SHARP and how not all skins are racist, and then finally just gave in and became racist himself and eventually dropped out of school.

I think that's how it happened. Been a while, I haven't seen this guy since 10th grade.

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Either way. The group as a whole (note I said "as a whole", disregarding certain non-racist individual, who seem to be the exeption as opposed to the rule) is related to nazism and racism and I want no part in either. So I avoid them and am not up-to-date on the terminology.

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You missed my point and apparently didn't bother to read the link. It is, in fact, the OPPOSITE- neo-nazi skinheads are the exception. Yes, it happens and they are certainly more outspoken than the rest, but that doesn't make them all bad. Between movies, the news, TV, and a general insistence on staying in the dark, most subcultures tend to be labeled incorrectly and hated for no reason. It's sort of like how anyone interested in standing up for animal rights is immediately associated with the freaks at PETA and how young black men in baggy pants are instantly treated as criminals. it's not fair and it's not true.

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Skinheads also gained a great deal of media attention after some of them were recruited by far right political parties like the National Front. The party's position against blacks and Asians appealled to some working class skinheads who blamed immigrants for economic and social problems. This led to the public's common misconception that all skinheads are neo-Nazis. In the meantime, the skinhead subculture had spread beyond The UK and Europe.

In an attempt to counter this negative stereotype, some anti-racist skinhead organizations were formed. In the USA, Skinheads Against Racial Prejudice (SHARP) started in 1987, and Anti-Racist Action (ARA) began in 1988. SHARP then spread to the UK and beyond, and other less political skinheads also spoke out against neo-Nazis and in support of traditional skinhead culture. Two examples are the Glasgow Spy Kids in Scotland, and the publishers of the Hard As Nails zine in England. The Skinhead sub culture has since spread around the world, and there are many different kinds of skinheads.


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It's also worth noting that the original skinheads were a bunch of working-class mods who were inspired by Jamaican rudeboys, circumstances which don't exactly scream "nazi".

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And as for redemption, I don't see it for Kharisma. She just seems too thick. Yes, at the start, Mike seemed so too, but their characters are about the same "age" (time in comic), yet she's never gotten close. She seems to be present for humor factor, to just be someone callous and disgustingly self-centered to the point where you just have to laugh.


Mike, while often hopelessly thick where social interaction is concerned, does sometimes exhibit an at least moderate degree of underlying intelligence (I think his budding talent as a game-designer was hinted at a while back).

Kharisma on the other hand, seems to be nothing more than a pretty piece of fluff.

Then again Monette, whose lack of grey matter is the stuff of legend amongst the S*P cast, did eventually redeem herself. Of course, Monette has always lacked Kharisma's vanity, but who knows, maybe Nancy's relentless bitch-slapping will eventually tear down the facade of narcissism and enable her to build something worthwhile in it's place. Her experiences at the 'Crotcherella' booth at the comic convention (will dig up the comic when I've got time) may have at least taught her the meaning of self-respect (although she probably got distracted by her own reflection and forgot about it moments later).

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Nah, she has been consistently dense and irritating throughout S*P. I can't see that changing.


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I'd rate her chances of becoming a worthwhile human being as unlikely, but not impossible.

But yeah, she does seem to have become somewhat too dehumanised to make redemption seem likely. If not for the slightly surreal/larger-than-life nature of some of the S*P characters, I'd suspect that she had some kind of personality disorder.

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Mike has gone through a slow, yet steady process of redemption. It's quite possible that something similar may await Kharisma. You never know... you know?


http://www.somethingpositive.net/sp02232006.shtml

I think I may have been onto something.


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J-H-A: I'm elated to say that I have no idea what you're talking about. In any/all cases.
so I made you a pretty WITH PICTURE explainatory chart thing

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Oh and the last part, that storyline can be found starting 01/23/2004 and ending 01/27/2004 that's all I meant about the babydaddy and the dog...anything you didn't get there is basically, randy invented this dog, and it disapeared... so since it was as fred said an old dog, so I figure it could be dead...but still...comparing faye's passing to that of a dog's passing is like... wtf?! because at first I was like DAVAN DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A DOG!..OH WAIT!..is uh..is that thing still kickin'?! WAIT! POINT IS...YOU B*TCH ITS HIS MOM! SHOW SOME RESPECT, FAYE WAS AWESOME...

So thats all...you say BRICK WITH SPIKES I think of "thwomp" from mario...and trail off.


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Seemed appropriate, or justly inappropriate.

[Edit: Thanks for the inspiration Hours]

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Nicrat is my hero. :o

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I'm sorry, I'm exceedingly tired, but is Mario about to be sodomized by a giant mole snout?

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I'm sorry, I'm exceedingly tired, but is Mario about to be sodomized by a giant mole snout?


Hopefully.

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I'm sorry, I'm exceedingly tired, but is Mario about to be sodomized by a giant mole snout?


Nah, road cone.

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