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Author:  OmnipotentEntity [ Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:25 am ]
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I'm all for consolidation in this manner. The forums seem too much like a vacant ghost house will all of the lonely boards floating around.
Author:  Kest [ Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:40 am ]
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Since there are no objections and I have the day off work, I'm doing it now. There is no good reason to set an arbitrary date like the 27th.
Author:  madadric [ Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:11 am ]
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lovely, it's done!

i must say, i am enjoying the reign of our new overlords.
Author:  Spools [ Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:14 am ]
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It's beautiful!
Author:  Wark [ Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:53 am ]
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Fancy. Much better organized.
Author:  Vass [ Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:16 am ]
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Here's a controversial proposal. How about pruning general discussion of threads that hasn't been posted in for over, say a year. Pruned threads could then be moved to a locked forum where they can be ignored forevermore.

Advantages: general discussion doesn't look like a bloated sack of shit that needs to be split. New topics could be started for old subjects.
Disadvantages: general discussion looks empty because of the lack of people posting. People won't be able to complain about how the old thread should've been necroed to rehash the topic.
Author:  madadric [ Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:46 am ]
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sounds good vass, do it.
Author:  Kest [ Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:56 am ]
Post subject:  Can't tell whether or not that's a good idea, I'll wait til someone else chimes in.
Ambivalence.
Author:  Rusty [ Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:14 am ]
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I think it's generally a good idea as it removes bloat, and if anyone really wants to link a topic they can still do so.

Using the search function to see if it's already been posted about makes sense, though.
Author:  themadthinker [ Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:51 pm ]
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Vass wrote:
Here's a controversial proposal. How about pruning general discussion of threads that hasn't been posted in for over, say a year. Pruned threads could then be moved to a locked forum where they can be ignored forevermore.

Advantages: general discussion doesn't look like a bloated sack of shit that needs to be split. New topics could be started for old subjects.
Disadvantages: general discussion looks empty because of the lack of people posting. People won't be able to complain about how the old thread should've been necroed to rehash the topic.


I don't know, I like being able to necro relevant threads if something pertinent appears.

However, what I do support doing is combining all the dead webcomics forums into one (with possible sub-forums) to remove all the shite at the bottom of the index.
Author:  Wark [ Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:57 pm ]
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It's never really seemed like that much of a problem for me. I mean, older threads naturally get shuffled behind the first page anyway.

Unless you're talking about moving them to a forum that no one can see, in which case, that is a terrible idea, due to searching reasons.

If you're worried about people necroing threads, you could just put a time limit on them that auto-locks them after a year, or something.
Author:  Kest [ Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:19 pm ]
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Wark wrote:
If you're worried about people necroing threads, you could just put a time limit on them that auto-locks them after a year, or something.

That sounds more reasonable to me.
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maybe even make it so that the locked forums are automatically collapsed, if that's even possible.

I'd go with this one, too; merging the forums should be a last resort, as a lot of the threads would lose their context.
Author:  Wark [ Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:41 pm ]
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Also, it's probably worth mentioning that I also support doing away with the fuckton of dead forums towards the bottom. Either merge them together, or maybe even make it so that the locked forums are automatically collapsed, if that's even possible. Seems pointless for so many forums to take up so much space on the front page when they're no longer even relevant.
Author:  shoonra [ Thu Aug 23, 2007 4:46 pm ]
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how about putting all that shit in a separate archive with a better search engine and linking to it?
Author:  Vass [ Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:39 pm ]
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Wark wrote:
It's never really seemed like that much of a problem for me. I mean, older threads naturally get shuffled behind the first page anyway.

This is true, but still leaves the problem of general discussion looking like a bloated sack of shit.

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Unless you're talking about moving them to a forum that no one can see, in which case, that is a terrible idea, due to searching reasons.

They'd probably get dropped in a locked forum along with all the dead post something threads. Doing that would make searching neither easier nor harder.

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If you're worried about people necroing threads, you could just put a time limit on them that auto-locks them after a year, or something.

Is that even possible? Having had a brief poke around in the admin panel, it seems to me that moving threads would have to be done manually, pruning deletes the thread entirely (goodbye last thread in sockhead >.>) nothing noticeable for autolocking either.

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Either merge them together, or maybe even make it so that the locked forums are automatically collapsed, if that's even possible.

It is possible, it's used on comic genesis, which also uses phpbb. Will probably have to badger kyhm about it.

shoonra wrote:
how about putting all that shit in a separate archive with a better search engine and linking to it?

That would work too, but at that point we may as well dump the entire current database into that and start with a blank slate. Convincing kyhm would be an uphill battle.
Author:  Kest [ Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:41 pm ]
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You know... this really is a temporary setup while waiting for phpbb3. Those forums at the bottom were originally supposed to be subforums, which take up much less space.

Kyhm said he can have the category collapsed by default by the 31st at the latest, which should solve the problem.



If you're not willing to wait for that, I could temporarily set up an open usergroup that anyone can join and set those forums visible to members only.

Seriously, a lot of these threads might as well not even exist if you merged the forums they belonged to. Hiding forums by default but still leaving them easily accessible in some way is better.
Author:  shoonra [ Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:47 am ]
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Vass wrote:
shoonra wrote:
how about putting all that shit in a separate archive with a better search engine and linking to it?

That would work too, but at that point we may as well dump the entire current database into that and start with a blank slate. Convincing kyhm would be an uphill battle.

:asianroll:
"might as well"
way to take a simple solution and turn it into a problem.

just dump everything but ~10 pages of unrelated and the creative works forums (which should be divided again, the merging is a big fucking mess) into the archive and get it over with.

we dont need any of that shit. no one is looking at it. get it out of my face.
Author:  kyhm [ Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:56 pm ]
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Kest wrote:
...Kyhm said he can have the category collapsed by default by the 31st at the latest, which should solve the problem...

Done. New option "hide by default" when editing a category, which will cause the category to be hidden until the user clicks on it.
Author:  Kest [ Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:50 am ]
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Thanks, lookin good.
Author:  madadric [ Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:57 am ]
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shmexy!

now all we need are some users. Any ideas?
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