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I think his own point was to tell her it wasn't anything made by humans. Then they kept him around because...you know, he's that Anthony Anderson guy that's in practically every movie.

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Imo he should have been taken out when the secretary of defense of whoever the hell he was took that chick out of the room.


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Insane_Megalomaniac wrote:
Also- Was there really a point to the fat, black hacker besides comic relief? He provided as much to the script as Jar Jar Binks, except he was actually entertaining, though predictable.
for that matter what was the point of the nerd girl anyway?

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Oh now I remember why the black dude was important!!!!

It was because he could!!!!
[spoiler]hotwire the computer monitor to the radio to send out morse code[/spoiler]


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Incidentally, that wouldn't work in real life. :-P

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But that's never stopped hollywood before!!!


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Oh now I remember why the black dude was important!!!!

It was because he could!!!!
[spoiler]hotwire the computer monitor to the radio to send out morse code[/spoiler]
now tell me why THAT was important.

This is just Michael Bay syndrome. Too many characters with no reason to exist.

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Just saw it today. I'll be damned, it actually wasn't bad. I thought people were just under some collective delusion from seeing their childhood heroes onscreen. The pacing was quite good, with enough action, subplots, and funny moments to keep the human-centric scenes from dragging like I was afraid they would. Needed more Optimus vs. Megatron, though- we barely got to see them fight, except when it cut to Megatron throwing Optimus into something.

Other nitpicks:

* What was up with the fights scenes in general? This isn't like Batman Begins, where they had to use close-ups and quick editing to hide the inadequacies of the stuntman having to move in the suit; the robots looked pretty good whenever we saw them in wide shots, so wtf Michael Bay? He should have done a 300 and had the fights take place almost entirely in slo-mo. I know it's his style, but think of the poor programmer who had to create a robot with 67,000,000 moving parts just to have Bay stick the virtual camera inside its colon.

* Why didn't Ironhide have his southern accent? Given Jazz's ridiculously stereotypical voice, it would have fit right in, and made the character that much more awesome, although his rocket-jumping and tag-teaming with that other bot (the medic, I think) made me want to have his robo-babies anyway. Making them horrifying cyborg robo-manbabies, I suppose.

* Needed a little more time with the Autobots in general. I know they were expensive to put on screen, but we needed at least one more character moment for most of them, especially if the movie's going to do things like expect us to remember who Jazz is at the end.

Um... that's it, really. There are a vast number of other arguments against it of course, but they're mostly along the lines of the absence of things like plot logic, well developed characters, realism, etc., that the movie had no pretension of trying to include in the first place, and so would be kind of pointless.

For making a mindless fluff summer movie which was entertaining enough to keep me from waking up my brain during it and ruining the experience, and for doing about as good a job as could ever be expected when the primary source material is a toy line, I give it 4 exploding robotic thumbs out of 5.


P.S.- Did anyone else laugh at completely different moments than most of the audience? I just groaned when Bumblebee "lubricated" on the MiB, but laughed out loud during the great little moment when the main character is explaining Megatron to the bigwigs and sounds exactly like some kid trying to explain his toys to his parents. Also hilarious was the same character shouting about how his dad was the head of the neighborhood watch to the police on the phone; as someone who deals with the public, I know people will pull precisely that same type of shit all the time ("I don't care if you're a lawyer/reporter/own a company/play golf with Verizon's president/a friend of the Secretary of State's third cousin's 5th-grade teacher/etc., we can't get a technician out until tomorrow, sir, seeing at it's 9 at night...")

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I still haven't seen this movie.

FUCK I WANT TO SEE THIS MOVIE!

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Kaz*CheesyDoritoBomb* wrote:
Oh now I remember why the black dude was important!!!!

It was because he could!!!!
[spoiler]hotwire the computer monitor to the radio to send out morse code[/spoiler]
now tell me why THAT was important.

This is just Michael Bay syndrome. Too many characters with no reason to exist.


The point was to

[spoiler]order the air strike, which was completely useless and only there to give Starscream more screen time[/spoiler]
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Also I didn't stay for the credits as my dad, brother, and two foster kids wanted to get on my computer so they could do stupid shit like browse myspace for music videos.


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Just saw it today. I'll be damned, it actually wasn't bad. I thought people were just under some collective delusion from seeing their childhood heroes onscreen. The pacing was quite good, with enough action, subplots, and funny moments to keep the human-centric scenes from dragging like I was afraid they would. Needed more Optimus vs. Megatron, though- we barely got to see them fight, except when it cut to Megatron throwing Optimus into something.

Other nitpicks:

* What was up with the fights scenes in general? This isn't like Batman Begins, where they had to use close-ups and quick editing to hide the inadequacies of the stuntman having to move in the suit; the robots looked pretty good whenever we saw them in wide shots, so wtf Michael Bay? He should have done a 300 and had the fights take place almost entirely in slo-mo. I know it's his style, but think of the poor programmer who had to create a robot with 67,000,000 moving parts just to have Bay stick the virtual camera inside its colon.

I hope he reads this and puts this advice into the sequel.
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* Why didn't Ironhide have his southern accent? Given Jazz's ridiculously stereotypical voice, it would have fit right in, and made the character that much more awesome, although his rocket-jumping and tag-teaming with that other bot (the medic, I think) made me want to have his robo-babies anyway. Making them horrifying cyborg robo-manbabies, I suppose.

they got their voices/language skills from the World Wide Web. the south doesnt have access yet.
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* Needed a little more time with the Autobots in general. I know they were expensive to put on screen, but we needed at least one more character moment for most of them, especially if the movie's going to do things like expect us to remember who Jazz is at the end.

Um... that's it, really. There are a vast number of other arguments against it of course, but they're mostly along the lines of the absence of things like plot logic, well developed characters, realism, etc., that the movie had no pretension of trying to include in the first place, and so would be kind of pointless.

For making a mindless fluff summer movie which was entertaining enough to keep me from waking up my brain during it and ruining the experience, and for doing about as good a job as could ever be expected when the primary source material is a toy line, I give it 4 exploding robotic thumbs out of 5.

I enjoyed it, too. I marked out when Optimus started to speak. Peter cullen voices two of my favorite childhood characters (Optimus and Eeyore), so he was the perfect choice for it.
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P.S.- Did anyone else laugh at completely different moments than most of the audience? I just groaned when Bumblebee "lubricated" on the MiB, but laughed out loud during the great little moment when the main character is explaining Megatron to the bigwigs and sounds exactly like some kid trying to explain his toys to his parents. Also hilarious was the same character shouting about how his dad was the head of the neighborhood watch to the police on the phone; as someone who deals with the public, I know people will pull precisely that same type of shit all the time ("I don't care if you're a lawyer/reporter/own a company/play golf with Verizon's president/a friend of the Secretary of State's third cousin's 5th-grade teacher/etc., we can't get a technician out until tomorrow, sir, seeing at it's 9 at night...")


I cracked up because it reminded me of David Gest whining about when Liza Minelli would beat him. the whole conversation would be
Odd lines: She hit me like this and that and did this and that to me
Even lines: how could she? I know (insert some famous name here, the willy nelson one cracked me up the most)

All in all. I got to enjoy this movie with my kids. A parental dream come true.
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Sorry, I'll have to disagree with the general opinion of this movie. You've all been bought over by what little content there actually is in what basically is an enrollment ploy, the "you're now a soldier" line really got to me and felt like it was pushing the already present patriot-stacked merchandise fuelled america's awesome thing a bit too far, even further than when spidey ran infront of the american flag in his last shit fest.

Other than that, it was a standard by the numbers actioner with a diabolical script and some worse acting. I already knew what and when half of it was going to happen and why.

Poor effort in my opinion.

Although Optimus Prime is the ultimate badass and will remain so until the end of time, but even he couldn't save the film.


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It had big robots punching other big robots, Indyems. That is all I needed and expected.

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 Post subject: Re: Should have shouwn a re-run of Starship troopers, at least there's some titty....
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Sorry, I'll have to disagree with the general opinion of this movie. You've all been bought over by what little content there actually is in what basically is an enrollment ploy, the "you're now a soldier" line really got to me and felt like it was pushing the already present patriot-stacked merchandise fuelled america's awesome thing a bit too far, even further than when spidey ran infront of the american flag in his last shit fest.

Other than that, it was a standard by the numbers actioner with a diabolical script and some worse acting. I already knew what and when half of it was going to happen and why.

Poor effort in my opinion.

Although Optimus Prime is the ultimate badass and will remain so until the end of time, but even he couldn't save the film.
you forgot to mention how 300 was about invading Iran.

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It was enjoyable and had everything I expected or wanted of it. Only thing that really bothered me is how they made it so that it was actually impossible to care about Jazz's death.

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I saw it today.

Adequate.

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Damn, that took you forever.


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dont they always delay the relases of stuff late in austrailia?

they are still bashing the OLD george bush ad the US President.

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Damn, that took you forever.


I still haven't seen it...

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