Skjie wrote:
Except, there were never rules before, or even super-active moderators during the time a lot of people were active. Somehow, a group of people decided Kyhmforums = SAlite, and over time more and more people left who didn't want to be a part of SAlite, thus reinforcing that this was the right course of action.
Yes, it was obviously an active decision by a dark cabal of forum members who subsequently turned the forums evil and not a natural progression based upon the fact that EN was the original attraction for these forums; that unrelated was created as a place for the people who were attracted to these forums by EN to chill and talk non-EN stuff and that those very people tended to find amusement in linking tubgirl and other shocksites in unrelated.
If kyhm forums have been turned into SAlite, why then haven't all the people who departed for SA returned? Where's eronarn? Radio/eriatarka? BDM05? Muad'Dib? I can't say I've seen a post by Rupe in a while.
Meanwhile, those regulars who in the past have bothered to provide reasons for their departure, have stated medical reasons, work commitments, "hay guys I'm moving to germany for a year. lol no I'm not, but I'll be too busy to post", moving overseas, everyone is a dirty commie hippy, "oh em gee you banned grey and that's repressive dictatorship", too much drama, a need for more free time and, of course, too many pain in the arse newbies as the reasons why they were leaving. I have only once seen a regular say that the forums were turning too
malicious and "SA-like." I'll leave it to you to work out who that person was. Only one out of over fifty departed regulars across probably over a hundred hiatuses.
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If you really wanted to change how Kyhmforums is, you would do so tomorrow. Stop the trolling and don't respond to bullshit (which could backfire this very post!). You only want an administrator so you don't have to take personal blame for your douchebaggery.
Again you have cut to the heart of the issue and determined that the dark cabal of evil SAlite-ness is merely out to exculpate itself of blame for the current situation. However, you are so fucking wrong. An admin (and some semblance of order) is needed for several reasons:
- It's something novel, we haven't had a competent and active admin in a while. Some would argue ever, but that's a minor issue for later.
- Self moderation has been an unmitigated disaster. Without moderators or admins who are willing to act justly, listen to the community *and* try to balance the two, it falls upon the community itself to enforce a community policy re: etiquette, courtesy and any other posting standards they desire. As a result people are made to feel unwelcome because the community has to resort to nagging and bullying tactics as there is no way to sticky a thread for such standards without a mod or admin.
- It has been public knowledge since at least the start of May that CAS is intending to create its own forums and leaving these forums to make their own way. It can therefore be reasonably assumed that these forums will no longer get an influx of new members from ES or Midlands and will have to acquire new members some other way lest they turn into this. As kyhm has also stated that he has no real interest in actively managing the forums, it devolves upon the community itself to find its own direction that will allow it to survive and choose people who are willing to actually do what it takes to keep these forums alive. Strangely enough, doing what it takes will involve someone(s) finding a new means to attract people to the forums and, if necessary, doing work on the forums (such as deleting old forums, creating new forums, banning misbehaving people) and, if necessary, making sure that the community's standards of behaviour are observed and maintained by both the community and the newcomers.