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Author:  arwing [ Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:25 pm ]
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Yorik wrote:
cakewalk wrote:
This is a good example of shit post/"logic" as compared to intelligent posting (STILL JUST A THEORY). The idiot in question recognizes that evolution occurs, but it tries to draw a false distinction between the imaginary concepts of macro- and micro-evolution.
LA LA LA LA LA NOT LISTENING LA LA LA LA LA CAN'T HEAR YOU LA LA LA LA.

Author:  Yorik [ Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:49 pm ]
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arwing wrote:
I like puppies. Erotically.


TMI?

Author:  caekwon [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 12:00 am ]
Post subject:  You claim that you don't want to get into this, but then, you brought it up. Taste the pain.

Yorik wrote:
All theories surrounding evolution or Creation are still just theories. You can gather a mountain of scientific proof for any one theory, and a good portion can be disproved in some manner. Not to mention the other side's going to ridicule it all anyway.

I'm not getting into the whole Evolution vs Creation debate, as I have better things to do. Like read porn. However, my point still stands: this incident is an example of the form of evolution Creationists (and some others) refer to as micro evolution. Even some Fundies (like my parents, for example) can agree upon the existence of adaptation.


Your ignorance of this issue stems from your far deeper and more profound ignorance of science in general. Here's a helpful primer to get you started down the wonderful path of learning:

1. All human knowledge is "just theory." Everything. If you don't believe me, look it up.
2. "Proof" does not exist in a scientific context.
3. Most science does not have "another side." While in many of the more complex and nebulous sciences competing theories can exist side by side, in the case of Evolution, much like gravity or my theory that you will die alone, there is simply the right and the wrong (you).
4. Claiming that people with an obvious and definite anti-science bias and "some others" believe in something does not count as evidence for that something as a scientific theory.
5. You have nothing better to do. Seriously. It's a saturday night, you're a virgin, and you're alone. Your parents won't let you go play video games at your friend's house or drink beer. It's basically this or WoW for you.

Author:  Tossrock [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:51 am ]
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I wouldn't want to get in a street fight with Cake

Author:  actor_au [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:58 am ]
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Image

The blue bits are where people that don't accept basic science can go and live without ever meeting anyone that might disagree with them.

GO NOW FOR THE GOOD OF THE REST OF US!

Actor.

Author:  Kest [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:18 am ]
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This thread is win.

Author:  Urban Wild Cat [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:38 am ]
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No one loves my Bananaman reference.

Bananaman roxxors.

Author:  Vass [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:25 am ]
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Urban Wild Cat wrote:
No one loves my Bananaman reference.

Bananaman roxxors.

Everyone was distracted by Serious Business.

Author:  actor_au [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:26 am ]
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/me Eats a Banana.

Actor.

Author:  Psycojes [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 7:29 am ]
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A quick explanation of scientific Theory for those who fell asleep in every middle and high school science class or were home school by crazy fundamentalist parents.

Scientists work in theories because they leave room for change.


That was my main point, go back and read it until you understand.

If there truly was proof for creationism then science would take that proof and change their theory to incorporate it.

Scientific laws are more of a result of closed minded scientists than the accumulation of proof.
It's really the theory of gravity, not law of gravity.

Author:  arwing [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 8:19 am ]
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Author:  actor_au [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 8:30 am ]
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Oh time cube, while I was Admin I tried to make the forum run on your time.

Then reality broke and I had to get Superboy Prime to punch a wall to fix it.

Lots of laughs that was, lots of laughs.

Actor.

Author:  Yorik [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 8:34 am ]
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cakewalk wrote:
Yorik wrote:
I am acknowledging your point.

I will continue making it anyway.


I know that "all human knowledge is 'just theory' and 'proof' does not exist in a scientific context". I'm retarded, not an idiot. And the idea that Creationists are anti-scientific stems from your far deeper and more profound ignorance of Creationists in general. Creationism is itself a scientific theory espoused primarily by most of the religious community, such as Christians, Muslims and Jews/Hebrews/whatever their politically correct name is these days. And not even all of the above profess believe in the Creation theory - I've met a number of Christians who believe in Evolution. I've never met one who didn't believe in gravity.

Author:  Vass [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 8:43 am ]
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Yorik wrote:
Jews/Hebrews/whatever their politically correct name is these days.

Firewood.

Author:  Yorik [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 8:48 am ]
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Vass wrote:
Yorik wrote:
Jews/Hebrews/whatever their politically correct name is these days.

Firewood.


I do not live in glorious nation of Kazakhstan.

Author:  caekwon [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 8:59 am ]
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Yorik wrote:
cakewalk wrote:
Yorik wrote:
Here is a sloppy "compromise" because I don't want to argue. Dont you know that evolution is just a theory and all science must be made fun of??
Taste the pain.
D: I said I don't want to argue!

Creation science is, not, in fact, in any way scientific. It is religion wrapped in a child's understanding of scientific process and pushed aggressively by the religious right. There is no good science involved. Fucking zero. This is why it doesn't get taught in schools as science. The reason you have been made to believe otherwise is that evolution represents a direct affront to your worldview and your masters' religious conservative power structure. ID or Creationism as science amounts to nothing less than a calculated attempt to deliver a stinky bullshit burrito to anyone dumb enough to eat it. The idea is to destroy or restructure science to fit into a view of the world would allow for angels and a magical creator father figure. Gravity, interestingly, (miracle?) doesn't really seem to piss God off much, for some reason. In closing, If you continue to believe in ID as science, then you are an idiot. If you are now retarded and you continue to believe in ID as science, then you are a retarded idiot.

Author:  arwing [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:00 am ]
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Yorik wrote:
Creationism is itself a scientific theory

hey did you see up there?

Where I posted time cube?

Author:  onion [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:18 am ]
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Yorik wrote:
cakewalk wrote:
Yorik wrote:
I am acknowledging your point.

I will continue making it anyway.

Creationism is itself a scientific theory espoused primarily by most of the religious community, such as Christians, Muslims and Jews/Hebrews/whatever their politically correct name is these days.


Error.

It is a is a theory. But it is in fact not a scientific theory, based as it is, on the book of genesis and not equations and actual testable, recreatable and peer reviewable substance.

However, it's come to my attention that my theory that you are utterly fucktarded is now held as scientific, given the amount of documentable proof you've left scattered about the place.

Author:  arwing [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:27 am ]
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onion wrote:
Yorik wrote:
cakewalk wrote:
Yorik wrote:
I am acknowledging your point.

I will continue making it anyway.

Creationism is itself a scientific theory espoused primarily by most of the religious community, such as Christians, Muslims and Jews/Hebrews/whatever their politically correct name is these days.


Error.

It is a is a theory. But it is in fact not a scientific theory, based as it is, on the book of genesis and not equations and actual testable, recreatable and peer reviewable substance.

However, it's come to my attention that my theory that you are utterly fucktarded is now held as scientific, given the amount of documentable proof you've left scattered about the place.
but onion, lots of people believe in Creationism. That's got to make it right!

Author:  onion [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:57 am ]
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Let us conduct a small experiment with the google image search function into the nature and proof of gods existence versus the nature and proof of the existence of Charles Darwin:

God (highlights of which being a nebula called the Eye of God by peoeple outside of the scientific community, a picture of Jesus creating many blond women while saying 'Man now I am really weirding myself out' to himself and a charming photographs of two young girls in t shirts espousing the very Christian sentiment of 'GOD HATES FAGS'):
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Charles Darwin (mostly containing actual photographs of Charles Darwin and the miraculous appearance of his face inside a tree branch -- IT'S A MIRACLE!!! PRAISE SCIENCE!!!:
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Somehow, I think this perfectly illustrates the present discussion...

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