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Judge Judy vs. Saddam, d00ds.

I figure we should force him to do humanitarian things for the rest of his life.


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Saddam will most likely be tried in an all Iraqi court. Dubya's already said that is what he wants, and the UN will not sanction a trial that has the potential to end with the death penalty. Now, an all Iraqi court will most definately come up with death as a punishment, so the real question is how?


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let the poeple of Irag punch him to death, by way of only 14 to 15 poeple a day get to hit him. This prolongs the ratshitbastards life long enough for eveyone to get a hit, including the orphaned kids not yet big enough to get in a lick. Years of torture, then if he is still living after a few million hits, draw and quarted the fucker using camels, then feed him to hungry dogs, then gather the waste and burn it with all the used shoes in Iraq.
Did I mention I don't like the Bastard? If not, well, I don't like the bastard.


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I think he'll probably get an Iraqi trial, though with little hope for a fair one. After being found guilty I think it's likely he'll be killed, it doesn't really matter how. All your sadistic little fantasies are just that, thankfully; now that what to do with him is actually an issue, we've got semi-serious debate potential, and that kind of crap don't belong.

Anyway, I think life imprisonment would be better. If we execute him, he might become a martyr, and we don't want that. Besides, it'll make the U.S. look a little more benevolent, something that it desperately needs right now.

It's really a shame we can't send Saddam to be tried by the French, that would be an extremely sweet political move. They've gotta convict, but in doing so they concede valuable political ammunition to the coalition.

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Lucis Spei wrote:
I think he'll probably get an Iraqi trial, though with little hope for a fair one. After being found guilty I think it's likely he'll be killed, it doesn't really matter how. All your sadistic little fantasies are just that, thankfully; now that what to do with him is actually an issue, we've got semi-serious debate potential, and that kind of crap don't belong.

Anyway, I think life imprisonment would be better. If we execute him, he might become a martyr, and we don't want that. Besides, it'll make the U.S. look a little more benevolent, something that it desperately needs right now.

It's really a shame we can't send Saddam to be tried by the French, that would be an extremely sweet political move. They've gotta convict, but in doing so they concede valuable political ammunition to the coalition.


I love the idea with the French but how can we work the international law to get him sent there?

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No, we don't need to look kind and gentle. If the whole "Iraqis not being killed by a maniacal dictator" thing isn't GOOD, I doubt giving the bastard life in prison is gonna do us any good either.

Giving him to the French? I wouldn't doubt they'd let him go scot free.

Oh, and Saddam would just be a figurehead in prison if we let him rot there. =/


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Lucis Spei wrote:
I think he'll probably get an Iraqi trial, though with little hope for a fair one. After being found guilty I think it's likely he'll be killed, it doesn't really matter how. All your sadistic little fantasies are just that, thankfully; now that what to do with him is actually an issue, we've got semi-serious debate potential, and that kind of crap don't belong.

Anyway, I think life imprisonment would be better. If we execute him, he might become a martyr, and we don't want that. Besides, it'll make the U.S. look a little more benevolent, something that it desperately needs right now.

It's really a shame we can't send Saddam to be tried by the French, that would be an extremely sweet political move. They've gotta convict, but in doing so they concede valuable political ammunition to the coalition.


Yes, life in prison. Lets keep him there so the people he's been robbing blind have to pay to keep him alive. Great move!


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Of corse, and we'll just not mention people who've robbed us blind (corporate executives who've been uncovered as fraudulent, forgerers, people who've defrauded the govrnment, as well as your run of the mill murderers, rapists, etc.) get life in prison.

As much as Saddam deserves the worst of whatever we can give him, there are better ways to deal with him than simple execution. Look, if he is executed, he becomes a casualty in the "jihad against the American dogs" or whatever. If we lock him up and let him waste away, and enough discretion is exersized that he doesn't gain a cult of personality, it will be much more difficult to make an idol of him.

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Thats why we aren't executing or triing him. Bush has already said he feels the Iraqis are more than capable of handling the trial. If the US killed him, then yes, it would be fodder for the radicals. He's not going to be killed by us, however. He will be killed by the Iraqi people. I don't see how anyone can throw a fit about people killing a ruthless dictator who used to have children raped just because he could.


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<i>DID</i> he? I didn't know that. I guess you learn something new every day. But is it Bush's jurisdiction to determine what happens to Saddam? Maybe that's a stupid question: he's a POW. Could he be tried by the World Court, maybe, for Crimes Against Humanity? Well, I guess it was only in his own country, but yeah. Hmm...

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He will be tried for crimes against humanity, but it will not be a U.N. sanctioned world court, as they will not sanction any trial that has the death penalty as a potential outcome. Saddam will most likely simply be tried in an Iraqi court for a few million counts of murder, rape, robbery, and amongst other things, terrorism. I will say it as an Iraqi said on the news when he was questioned about Saddam's capture - "There is no resistance. It is terrorism..." "Saddam robbed the people of Iraq. Just last year he stole more than one billion dollars from the Bank of Iraq and used it to fund both local and international terrorists."


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