Okay, this is totally out of order...
Lucis Spei wrote:
So are you one to think that we (as a species, society, or what-have you) have reached the end of evolution? That there is nothing more to change? Now that is arrogance. Gods, even if you believe in perfection, what on Earth makes you think we've achieved it?
You quoted me just fine, but I think you may have been reading too quickly: "It may not be perfect but it more or less works."
apsuarawn wrote:
Because the people involved in the brewing business today are not branded criminals, and thus they act like business men.
You've got a post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc fallacy there... besides, brewers have, throughout almost all of history, been respected pillars of the community. Think Sam Adams, Jesus Christ (a vinter), etc. I really don't think you can say the same about pimps and whores.
Clay_Allison wrote:
I am a bit offended at the constant pervasive notion that any appropriate sized hole gives men the irresistable urge to put their dick in it!!!!
Deal with it, bro. I'm offended that other men beat their wives, fuck their daughters and are generally assholes, but they do and we can't just wish that away with righteous indignation. I'm not saying women are perfect (and spousal abuse is, alarmingly, headed towards gender-equity) rather I'm simply acknowledging a fact.
Clay_Allison wrote:
Australia has legal prostitution in some places, so does Las Vegas!!! ... As far as I can see laws against prostitution are going the way of prohiition!
I'll add a few European countries to that list of 1st world countries that have legal Prostitution. That's not much of a snowball.
Also: regarding Prohibition: as I mentioned in this post, alchohol has long been accepted, whereas prostitution has generally been prohibited. (I'm making some pretty big generalizations here, so fire away...) I wish the Temperance movement really *was* history, but the fact is that MADD is *still* trying to get rid of the demon drink, trying to link it to hard drugs and pushing for ever lower BACs in drunk driving. Beware these fuckers. And of course there's the whole anti-smoking thing which has just turned into a gravy train. De-fucking-spicable.
Lucis Spei wrote:
Trying to stop prostitution is like trying to catch rain in a seive, it just won't happen. As for wild hedonism, how would a legal, regulated and carefully run prostitution industry be hedonistic? In my experience, hedonism is simply a matter of degree, if these brothels spilled out into the streets they might cause problems-
To be clear: I'm not suggesting stopping it, you're suggesting legalizing it. I'm also not suggesting that legalized prostitution is the same thing as wild hedonism. I was talking about how society has experimented with different models. There were Greek cults (think Bacchus) that literally practiced hedonism. It's hard to hold down a full time job when you're munching shrooms and running around in ecstatic orgiastic rites. That's why those cults have basically died out. (And again, talking about society, not how individuals might live their lives... me, I'd rather go fishing and have a beer.)