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The act of masterbation: is it instinct, or concious action?

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Well, I've seen my roomates dog's routinely lick their erect genitals, so it may be considered instinct in some situations, but then again, I've been told by some people with psychology degrees that humans don't actually have instincts per say...


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On my part, it's conscious. I have these damned Forums to thank for making me start.

So no, it wasn't instinct. If you can stop yourself, it's not really an instinct. At least, for me it isn't I realize that holds no weight in a philosophical discussion, but it's how I view things.

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H-Kat wrote:
The act of masterbation: is it instinct, or concious action?

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Is it just me, or have the Debate Club topics gone downhill as of late? It used to be "Free Will" this and "Lamarckian Evolution" that (to judge by things Icy keeps saying ;), now we've got MP3s, porn, and masturbation. Then again, sounds like a fun night if you don't have a girlfriend...


Ah well, what the heck.

Masturbation is a conscious action predicated on the sexual instinct for a certain tactile sensation (which obviously, being an evolutionary advantage due to encouraging intercourse and thus procreation and the passing on of one's genes, is fairly strong in most humans), much like hunting a boar (or going to the supermarket) is a conscious action based on a strong instinctual need to ingest food.

I can't believe I just discussed that.

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 Post subject: Dammit, WI, took the words right out of my mouth!
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Yeah, what he said.

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Dude, we have to revive the philosophical brawl. I mean, we're DEBATING ABOUT PLAYING WITH OURSELVES FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

*Icy runs off to start a new debate.*


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Hehehe....

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Life without masterbation would be a real bore, stressful, and just plain shitty!

Bring on the porn and the kleenex, and life will go on!

Beats the hell out of blueballs or zippedlips.


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Masterbation is contious action, ejaculation is instinct. Chew on that.

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You are so gay. Stop reviving dead threads.

And that was SUCH a stupid statement too, I mean wtf? "OMEG EJACULATION ISN'T UNDER YOUR CONCIOUS CONTROL!!111 REVOLUTIONARY!111111oneoneoneeleventyone"

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The Man In Black wrote:
You are so gay. Stop reviving dead threads.

And that was SUCH a stupid statement too, I mean wtf? "OMEG EJACULATION ISN'T UNDER YOUR CONCIOUS CONTROL!!111 REVOLUTIONARY!111111oneoneoneeleventyone"

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Stop being an asshat. A thread being a few lines closer to the top of the page doesn't harm you.

Give it a rest MiB. And don't bump threads Chaos unless you have something meaningful to add.


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I mean it however. Ejaculation is something that the body forced. It's a type of cycle. IMHO. Let's start from zero point, Ejaculation. Your body starts to produce more sperm, after three days or so, you get full up. The desire to realese hits you. If you don't, then it starts to compress. 10 days later or so, it gets compleatly full. Whether or not you masterbate, you body will take care of the problem, through wet dreams. The body will force orgasm.

In other words. If you don't physically masterbate, your subcontious will.

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wow, these forums have hit a new low....

....wait, no it hasn't, hell this is much higher thought than the Unrelated Forum

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It is not how low we sink that matters. It's how we hold ourselves in that low. Whether it is a debate on the nature of God, or a debate on masterbation, we must give it our all. We shall approach it with the same high mindedness that give us our want, nay our need to debate. So Debate on good fellow, and worry not about respect.

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Masterbation is perfectly natural.

Many things are, for example, birds eat rotten berries to get at the fermented berry juice. (And you wonder when birds fly into your window... Someone should give that bird an FWI)

As for instinct, Chaos makes just about the best possible point on this matter. Sure, you conciously know you're masterbating, but if you don't you get it out other ways.

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see, this is why i don't post here.. but anyway

there is no 'build-up of sperm' in the body, in any way, it is re-absorbed into the body and then reproduced on a regular course otherwise people who don't masturbate would actually explode, I mean, come on, think it out logically if not medically

and one reason that masturbation is seen as a sign of mental instability or corruption is that in old school mental asylums the inmates were often seen jacking off 24/7 because, hey, they don't care if anyone sees because they're mad, and it feels good so why not? when all of their social conditioning and self conscious drives were stripped away by insanity, pain/pleasure instincts said that wanking = the best thing to do in *any* situation, so the medical minds decided that wanking is linked to insanity, rather than it being like any other human action just hightened by the persons madness

the argument above simple 'survival instincts' is the aformentioned pain/pleasure angle, if an action causes *you* more pleasure than pain then it's a good one, work this out over how ever long a term as you want and thus you get all of your life deisions explained, no big theory or books to sell, that's just the way it is.

and anyone who says people don't have instincts should remember that while his head might be up in the clouds, his feet are still solidly down in the filth and dirt of the ground, as are all of ours

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Not argueing with anyone, just giving out some info.
Ollie is right in that the sperm is produced and reabsorbed, but in some cases, some men do get an inflamation of the sperm tubes due to over production of sperm, and various irritations and injuries to the testicles.
A guy I rented our second floor apprtment to was a physicians assist. in the Army. He shared some fun info with me over the time he rented from me (I owned the duplex I was in while in the service).
Anyway, this sort of sperm problem showed up around 10 to 12 times a year, so the frequency was not large. It was usually associated with injury to the groin, or a bad case of the 'blue balls'. The cure? some mild atibiotics if any infection seemed likely, anti-inflamitories, and frequent sex or masturbation.
Hell of a Rx: Be sure to jerk off at least once a day for testicular health.
I thought he was full of shit about this subject until a coworker got racked good in the nuts, and had to see the doc weeks later as he was still very sore.
It was more of an emberasment than anything to the dude, getting told to
toss off to get better.............
He turned the ol Knuckle shuffle on his piss pump (thank you diceman) into a form of art after that, even tossed of on the Commanders hummer hood when he ETS'd.

Nothing wrong with a good toss, it helps promote testicular health, and keeps the shaft strong. Keeps the arm in shape for when the ol' lady gets in the hammock too. Going without is no good.


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all the news headlines here picked up on some 'science report' that said regular masturbation reduces the chances of testicular cancer recently, i mean, it raised awareness and all, but via the medium of many a wank joke. one of the main points it showed is that the general public still has a stigma against masturbation from so called medical reasons, ie as i said above, wanking = being mad. these reports played on this by spinning it as "wow, it's actually healthy, who'd have thunk it?" proving that many people still think like that (hairy palms etc)

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I'm sorry to contradict but...

I know for a fact that there is a form of "build up, in terms of sperm.

I'm not talking overflow, I talking about recharging you batteries.

When a battery is half full it still gives full power to the appliance it serves.

There is reabsorbtion of sperm back into the system, also you do ejaculate at least once a month. Guarenteed. Whether through wet dream or fist.

Trust me, I know. I have gone on 30 fasts from active masterbation... I have never made it without a nocternal emission.

Too much information? Yes but I don't give a shit.

Will I gove more information that you don't want to know? I will if I need to.

Bring it.

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Plus the act causes an increase in the amount of pheromones that are released and you feel naturally more relaxed, so it aids in the pursuit of "mutual releases"

I always found it more interesting that in the orangutan kingdom, the female will masturbate in front of a prospective mate male; a technique I personally find would greatly improve human social interaction. Flirtation gets so confusing sometimes…

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