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*sticks her head into the fray long enough to say* Kudos for the Carlin Quote. *quickly pulls her head back up*

Game on![off-topic]

http://forums.kyhm.com/viewtopic.php?p=120343#120343

Thats my response to TS, in case he hasn't read it. And, I found an item of interest in response to this:







Summarized from TNR, so there's your source.

So, Saddam, who had shown no compunction about using WMDs in the past, was seeking to restock the shelves, so to speak, at the very least.

-MiB

We have to admit that he had less then 50% of the people backing him. He lost the popular vote. More than 50% of the population are not behind him. Of course he will have critics. He'll have lots of them. This isn't as much a thing of Bush being a bad president. In this case I think Gore would be getting it just as bad if he won the election. This is a matter of a country split. Of half the country not liking who is in charge.

Edit: you have to ask?

well, 50% or not...who can beat GW?

who would you put in office?

A prime minister. I'm Canadian. If I was American I would probably go for Green party. Not sure though.

*cough*

Bush ratings = 51-58%, depending on the poll.

Smacktarded of you, CD, not keeping up with the facts and all, but hey I <3 you anally so its all good.

-MiB

Actually, that seems to be the best, if dumbest, way to criticize Bush: he's managed to let approval ratings drop from high 70s to low 50s (51 in Newsweek's "latest poll"). So either people are stupid (yay elitism) or he's done at least something wrong.

Also: Rummy. He said in a memo that the war in Iraq wasn't going as well as expected. He's also defending a militantly Christian general who is probably as fundamentalist as many of the Muslim terrorists you so hate. But to me that shows not so much just Donald Rumsfeld's faults, but the spirit of the entire administration: do anything we can do for public support, so that we can do whatever we want to do, no matter the morality, when it really counts. Also, specifically, they seem to be very devoutly Christian, which frankly scares me.

Also: the fact that the war in Iraq apparently wasn't very well planned for, and that, when an effort could have been made for more UN support and money down the road, it wasn't, forces me to give the benefit of the doubt to Bush's critics. While I obviously dislike Bush and his administration before this, I honestly did not think that he would actually make a war without an effective plan for the aftermath, especially when the whole point, and the whole difficulty, to this war was always going to be the aftermath.

Sublte hint to Bush-haters: stop repackaging the same message over and over again. Its getting old, and boring.



*cough*

-MiB

(source)

Uhm . . . and WHERE exactly does that contradict itself?

Bold added in case you missed it.
To me those are saying two different things about Iraq's weapons program, but that is just how I read it.

"expanding and improving," "that were used," past tense please Rev, please read those over and take that coat hanger out of your brain. The statements arn't contradictory, they both say "Saddam is/was ramping up facilities to make WMDs."

But hey if you want to slant it to hate Bush thats your perogative, I guess there can be no arguements if you want to get that nit-picky.

-MiB

Okay I see what it is saying now. I got confused with the tenses, thank you.

Do you enjoy creating enemies where you have none that much?

I supported the war (eventually) and expected them to find WMDs.

You really should realise that all my "witty" comments come with a smile (or smirk at least) and a chuckle.

I mean honestly, me? Hostile? Who would ever think that...

-MiB

Something my father had to say about the whole Iraqi conflict and Mr. Dubya.


My father: "Plain and simple, Bush started a war that did not need to be. They raised hell about WMD, and there isn't any. They talk about human rights issues over there, when there are problems over here that are more important, and many other people around the world who are worse than Saddam. Most importantly, he is getting our men killed. I have no problem with taking an asshole out of power, but I don't believe they went about it in the right way in the least, and our boys are dying because of it. Now, as for his 'tax refunds.' You remember (talking to me) when I recieved $500 back last year when the refund checks went out?"

Me: "Yeah."

Dad: "You know how much Cindy got? None."

Now, to explain a little bit about who Cindy is. Cindy is my father's girlfriend of over 6 years. We have lived with her for most of that.

Now, before all of you start yelling that they are common-law married, they aren't. Some of the primary rules to be considered common law include but are not limited to announcing publicly that you are man and wife, holding a joint account (checking, savings, money market, utilities, etc.), or the woman using the man's last name. They have done none of those and are not common law in any shape form or fashion.

Now, Cindy has three kids, all of which were claimed as dependants on her tax returns. They were age 20, 17, and 15 when the tax claims were made that affected those refunds. Cindy makes less money than my father by a great deal, and her youngest daughter is severly mentally handicapped. Now, a bit of a refund to this woman working her ass off to support three kids would have been a blessing, but she recieved nothing whatsoever because she was in too low of an income bracket. Now, this refund gave a good deal of wealthy people large refunds, but someone who really needs it gets nothing.

And now back to the conversation:

Dad: "If Clinton could have been president a third term, I would have voted for him and I'm sure he would have been re-elected. The simple fact of the matter is that while he was in office the economy was better than I've ever had to deal with. I was making more money then and retirement was looking like it would work out well thanks to my 401k and other things. Now that Bush has been in office, I've lost nearly two years of money I and my work have put into that 401k. Also, he fucked up the school system in Texas and tryed to make up for it by shipping money from one school to someone he fucked up, and it seems that he is doing the same with the federal government and education..."

About then we trailed off into a dscussion about the situation Texas is in with its current governer, Dubya's old Lieutenant Gov, who is fucking up things as it is.

A bit later I brought up welfare and something of the nature, and he told me Clinton actually cut back welfare while he was in office, but I'll have to check to see if its true.

You know, I want to go and read that new book by Moore. It apparently puts Bush through the ringer.

*sticks in head long enough to say...*

Oh, me! Me!

*waves hand wildly in the air*

George bush may have been a Pratt
BUT he liberated millions of oppressed Iraqis who didn't have what we class as BASIC needs such as freedom of speech Sadam Murdered his own people Kurds and many others.
So what Bush "PUT A SPIN" on the dossier but think back to the joy on the faces of the Iraqis when the statue fell and they beat it with their shoes!

Note: 51% is shit. 58% is not that better. All I said he lost the popular vote. In other words less then 50% of the peolple voted for him.

Read posts before you reply. smacktard

Yeah I mean 50s is shit, its not like Clinton ever had that in peacetime during a huge economic upswing, Bush having it during a harsh war and a huge America-bashing fest in the rest of the western world totally means he's incompetant.

Bestu arguement EVAR, CD.

But then again, sensitive etc, I could just insert some rude comment about Canada and reguardless of how funny/joking it is you'd run around crying for momma, 'wahh the mean ol' american made fun of my sad socialist parasitic country' etc, oops looks like I did it anyway, my bad.

Oh and, watch your language:



Emphasis my own. Through your horrible grammar [/pedant] you implied you were talking about right now.

-MiB