Lucis Spei wrote:
Well, then so does the rest of the populace.
Why? I don't see them being affected, even indirectly, by the loss. I do, however, see many people hurt when someone dies.
In the case of an abortion, who is most directly affected?
If you are assaulted, do you have the choice to not press charges?
Lucis Spei wrote:
Okagenoyume wrote:
I have not been in position to see a law ruled unconstitutional or anything along those lines without seeing someone being harmed by that law first, and bringing it to court.
Well, that's because breaking a law you think is unconstitutional and taking your case up the courts is the generally accepted way of changing a law like that. That case that was labelled the Monkey Trial, for example, the one that the movie
Inherit the Wind was based on, businessmen and town leaders actually put an add in the paper for a teacher to violate the state ordinance that banned Darwinism in public schools.
Yes. I'm aware of that (though I admittedly never heard of that movie). Just not why you're bringing it up.
Lucis Spei wrote:
Okagenoyume wrote:
I do not see
these men being affected very much by abortion.
Maybe not, but they are (un)fairly elected officials or the appointees thereof, and they therefore have to sit and debate and judge and legislate about stuff that concerns the people they govern, despite not being directly affected by it.
The point of this picture was to frighten you. I mean, look at how happy they all are! Creepy old men.
Lucis Spei wrote:
Okagenoyume wrote:
Personally? I do not know, myself, what is right. In the absence of that, I'll go for freedom?
Okay, but there are people who think they do know what is right, and they're gonna push their views around, so you must excuse me while I join them.
I'm commited in my indecision. I don't believe we, as a whole, know what's just and right in this case; thus I don't think we should make a decision until we're relatively sure[size=0]I'll not go on about the rights of the minority, and such[/size]. And, in the absence of a solid decision, I think choice is best, no? Works well for religion, I've noted.
Lucis Spei wrote:
Please don't take any of this as pro-lifeism, pro-Bushism, or conservatism in any way.
Not at all; it's simply your view on a particular issue[size=0]I believe and hope. In many other cases, it might certainly be such, and one can never entirely be free from outside influence.[/size].
Lucis Spei wrote:
I just dislike the alignment liberal ignorant enough to argue when it rears its ugly head.
Oh my! Was that an indirect insult? Regardless, I'll argue my lack of convictions, not, I believe, my ignorance.