Cenwood wrote:
No, you are a no-brained fuckwitted moron because you hide you homophobic beliefs behind a "Well, Im not SCARED of them, I just disagree with them and dont like them." And because you periodically post a load of pseudo-intellectual crap, and failing to back up your opinions in any way, shape or form. And because you are a generally innoying, immature little prick. Also, you think posting pictures from your toilet fetish website is the zenith of sophistication and humor. I would go on, but Im bored of talking about you already.
Hehe, I had to laugh at how much I agree with this paragraph.
Grey: the only reason you ended that thread is because everyone is tired with dealing with you. At this point, it doesn't seem that you're capable of biting your tongue unless you're forcedly gagged and bound. And we can just call DavidoftheEast over for that, could we not? But why must we tattle on you everytime? You're a sad, pathetic little man who seems to always sidetrack the debate into personal battles.
And just for everyone's information - I get smartest once a month, because there's that week farthest away from the blood in which I can actually form thoughts. *gasp* What a wonder...
Now... back to topic. Let's start from here:
PTLIS wrote:
There were some good points, namely morality should be a set of beliefs which stop hurting each other; thusly no form of love, homosexual included, can ever be immoral. Another one would be the denouncement of the traditional belief that "sex is bad", because it isn't, it is (to me at least) the truest, purest way to show your love to another. Assuming all people are consenting adults and are fully aware of the actions they are committing and the consequences of these actions I can see no good argument against any form of sex, straight or gay, monogamous or polygamous.
At least someone was smart enough to get relivant information from that article. Points.
Cenwood wrote:
Jasper, do whatever the hell you like inside your religion, as long as it doesnt contravene the human rights of other people. (So, no virgin sacrifices, basicly.) I just dont see how your religious beliefs are in any way relevant to the legal freedoms that other people should enjoy. Whether your Church chooses to allow marriage to gay people is irrelevent, your church will be a private institution that can have its own rules. Exclude from the club who you will. You cant, however, force your moral code on other people. They are entitled to the same legal protections and rights as you are, and that means they should be able to marry according to the state law.
Whether or not it is forced on others, it can be a prime factor of where homophobia originates. The issue with religion is learning to privately practice it instead of zealously striking those who choose not to.
Kylaer wrote:
I don't disapprove of men having sex with other men. I do, however, disapprove strongly of the "gay culture" that has developed among homosexuals in the U.S. (multiple sex partners, unsafe methods, etc.).
It seems ignorance is more the problem than not. Gays who practice unsafe sex (in all aspects) are just as in risk as straight human beings. The only thing they don't have to worry about is pregnancy.
Anti-gays have chosen this flaw to focus upon and publisize. So the general public "knows that all gays practice dangerous sex." Which is also a form of ignorance...