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Michael Badnarik of the Libertarian party, I'm fairly confident he'll win the primaries.

I will vote for him because he supports invididual rights.

Bush does not support invidividual rights, he's shown that with his treatment of US citizens with respect to terrorism. Nor will, it seems, any other republican. They tend to infinge upon individual rights in the area of social issues.

Kerry and most democrats do not support individual right either. They tend to create and support socialist programs that steal the profit of one's work with the threat of physical violence if you don't hand it over.

Other third parties I've looked into tend to be various extremes of the of either the democrats of republicans, or just not organized enough to matter.

The Libertarian party has been, and will be on the ballot in all 50 states (unlike the Green, only in 47, weak). It also has the most officials in public office of any third party. Frankly, it's the only third party that actually has a chance--which is why you never hear the media talk about it. Instead they ramble on about the Green to convince voters that third parties suck...but I digress.

I'm voting libertarian.


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I don't particularly agree with his stance on the second amendment, though he did state it in a more convincing way than most I have heard, but overall he seems like a very straightforward person.

His stance on the War on Drugs wouldn't seem to work if you asked me, however I am completely unqualified to judge this. All the rest of his ideas I like a great deal particularly the one on the death penalty.


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I don't particularly agree with his stance on the second amendment, though he did state it in a more convincing way than most I have heard, but overall he seems like a very straightforward person.

His stance on the War on Drugs wouldn't seem to work if you asked me, however I am completely unqualified to judge this. All the rest of his ideas I like a great deal particularly the one on the death penalty.


Because gun control works so well, just ask the brits.

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For the love of fucking Christ Mib shut the hell up and stop trying to pick fights just because you enjoy it you pathetic twat.

I said I disagreed with how he interpreted the second amendment; I don't really give a fuck whether people have guns anymore. You could have asked me to clarify my view instead of assuming it was the canned "Guns r teh bad" shit. But I suppose that would require your respect or something.

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For the love of fucking Christ Mib shut the hell up and stop trying to pick fights just because you enjoy it you pathetic twat.


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For the love of fucking Christ Mib Grey, and Icy shut the hell up and stop trying to pick fights just because you enjoy it you pathetic twat.


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For the love of fucking Christ Mib and Icy shut the hell up and stop trying to pick fights just because you enjoy it you pathetic twat.


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Fixed it, and repeated cuz it's true


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revolutio wrote:
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For the love of fucking Christ Mib shut the hell up and stop trying to pick fights just because you enjoy it you pathetic twat.

I said I disagreed with how he interpreted the second amendment; I don't really give a fuck whether people have guns anymore. You could have asked me to clarify my view instead of assuming it was the canned "Guns r teh bad" shit. But I suppose that would require your respect or something.

Good night.


Well, if it was a misunderstanding, you could clarify or some shit, I mean if me being polite means so much to you that you throw a temper tantrum, maybe you should rethink interacting with people, perhaps its not for you.

However, given that, my assumption on your belief was wrong, so my bad. You're still a pathetic fuckwit for the above temper tantrum, but I was wrong.

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The Man In Black wrote:
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Loud complaints and gripes at repeated assumptions.


Hypocrisy

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Generally, being rude in a loud, rude, obnoxious manner, is considered a temper tantrum. Why? Because it means that for whatever reason, that person is incapable of being polite, and the usual culprit is anger. However, when the person in question is not apparently actually angry, other reasons must be found for the inability (e.g. lack of certain social skills).

Just something to consider.

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I most likely will never vote Libertarian, because I do not view leftist-socialist programs as much of a threat as Kuh, and realism makes me find more utility in voting for a candidate with a higher likelihood of being elected.

Also, I'm gladdened by the success of the libertarian party; I rather like their ideals.

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Party stuff

I'm all for a three party system. Leftists, Centrists, Rights. Possibly a four-party (Lefts, Libertarians, Authoritarians, Conservatives), but more seems far too unstable a system (coalition governments don't have a good track record, if I recall).

And Grey? As for hating Bush, I do not. I think he is incompetent, viewing the success of such things as the No Child Left Behind Act.

I want some fucking centrist Justices.


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That or (as the humerous graphic might indicate) it was a big joke.

Just a thought.

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 Post subject: Jokes can be in poor taste, or annoying, regardless of their seriousness. Sorta like hazing.
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That is consistently your claim (with noted exceptions of "You're an idiot and/or a pussy"). People continue to complain. Perhaps they realize and understand your claims, by now, and are not complaining that you are genuinely insulting them.

My point stands.

[token topic-relevance]I ponder whether bipartisanship in the manner suggested by those wanting McCain for vp is a good idea.[/token topic-relevance]


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Upon review, Rev wasn't even angry at the joke: he was angry at the misinterpretation of his stance, which I corrected as an erroneous assumtpion.

And, since when has kyhm forum's become a place where a tasteless joke isn't accepted as koshure, no matter how horrible? If I recall thats the rule of the day, not the exception, so I don't see a problem here.

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Upon review, Rev wasn't even angry at the joke: he was angry at the misinterpretation of his stance, which I corrected as an erroneous assumtpion.

And, since when has kyhm forum's become a place where a tasteless joke isn't accepted as koshure, no matter how horrible? If I recall thats the rule of the day, not the exception, so I don't see a problem here.

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The problem is that you consistently use offensive behavior in debates, then when people call you on it, resort to the defense of 'It was only a joke'. If you haven't learned by now that people don't appreciate that in a debate setting, then I'm afraid that no one here can help you. And most of us will probably decide to stop listening to what you have to say, out of a desire to not be offended continuously. Tasteless jokes are fine, but not when people are trying to have a serious discussion.

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Ahhh, American politics, since most of the things I'm worried about happening to British politics are firmly entrenched in your system, the whole idea depressess me substansially. So does the fact that, if I were American (and my politics weren't substansially changed, which i must admit is unlikely, especially if you still have those Red witch hunts going on; I'm afraid my knowledge of Post Nixon America is rather weak- stupid National Curiculem) I'd probably vote Democrat, even though I hate them and all they stand for, I hate the Republicans (American Republicans anyway- stupid word) even more. Since anti-X views seem common, perhaps this should be "Who would you vote for" and "who would you like to win". A question I'm not prepared to answer, since I have little knowledge of fringe parties, most of the ones I do know and would consider voting for were arrested. Green's I support on some issues, but ideologically, and on certain issues I have to split (I do support protecting the environment, but mainly so my descendents can happily abuse it as well). Libertarians I disagree with profoundly, but if you oppose opressive security measures then your at least better than Bush- so I'll get back to you when I know of the specific aims of the Libertarian candidate.

And those of you who support independants, it's a noble aim, and certainly something to hope for (I'm still confused as to who working class Americans vote for and why, anyway) but a word of advice: keep an eye on them, since in Britain our acceptable centre spectrum (i.e.: we had liberals, conservatives, and socialists as the majority parties) has collapsed, and its gonna take decades to put it back.


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if you feel that America is obsessed by communists hiding under the bed then you obviously forget the point in the 70s where there was almost a rightwing coup to topple the Labour (socialist) government for fear it was controlled by Moscow, this group included David Sterling, the founder of the SAS, needless to say they'd have succeeded, if only for a short time and changed English politics by quite a degree

but they probably didn't teach you that in school, and you should really pay attention if you feel that the 2 +1 party system here has vanished, sure it's closer to a 1 +2 party system at the moment, but only just. One of the main reasons behing this is the steady rise of the far right in Europe, short of invading Poland they're getting quite busy, America is a young country, it has far less of this political extremism, wher ethey speak of left and right we speak of center left and center right

and your stream of consciousness writing's even worse than mine, shape up

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My thoughts on this election have changed since I last posted here. Politics, alas, is the art of compromise. I'd rather see actual, positive change on a small scale than nothing at all. The fact is, Bush has to go, and although I don't particularly like Kerry, he is not Bush. The race, as of now, is incredibly close; Kerry has a real chance of defeating Bush, but he won't unless everyone who is dissatisfied with the Bush administration gets out and votes for him.

Frankly, when I had supported Nader four years ago, I wasn't aware just how much Bush would fuck things up. I wasn't even thinking of practical consequences; I just had a problem with voting for someone who didn't match my views as closely as possible. Now, looking back upon the past four years, I realize how comparatively better Gore would have been.

Ultimately, I want to use my vote to effect change, and not simply express my opinion or make a statement.


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Icy, you are a moron, much as I <3 you.

You should know better than the OMG BUSH MUST GO CAUSE.... CAUSE... CAUSE... CAUSE I DONT LIKE HIM argument.


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Icy, you are a moron, much as I <3 you.

You should know better than the OMG BUSH MUST GO CAUSE.... CAUSE... CAUSE... CAUSE I DONT LIKE HIM argument.


Bush doesn't just have to go because I don't like him.

Bush has to go because he's ruined our country domestically and internationally.
  • He turned a 5 trillion dollar budget suplus into a 5 trillion dollar budget deficit. (And no, this wasn't entirely due to 9/11, the draining of the budget was well under way by then.) Most of this money was spent on tax cuts, 51% of which will, in the end, go directly to the top 1% of the population. Whether the recession was started by Clinton or not, Bush's deficit spending did absolutely nothing to stop it. Trickle-down economics doesn't work, people. I thought we all knew this by now. Not Bush, apparently.
  • He's doing all he can to promote the agenda of the Christian right. For Christ's sake, He wants to add an amendment to the constitution to essentially prevent gay marriage. And of course he's also of course against abortion, in favor of the government giving money to racist/homophobic religious groups, etc.,
  • The man's foreign policy leaves much to be desired. Through his decisions, he pretty much took the near-unanimous groundswell of international support and sympathy that the U.S. received directly after 9-11 and turned it into hostility and resentment. Obviously Saddam should not have been in power, but Bush chose to remove him in the most abrubt, dangerous, and imprudent way possible.


Obviously, these are my judgments, and for now I'm not giving any statistics or facts other than those I can pull from memory. However, I'm prepared to back up all of my statements if anyone wants to challenge them.

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Ok, so the economy is doing that thing that economys do. Flucuate.

So Bush couldn't rewrite the laws of modern commerce.

The fags cant marry. So what, it means I dont have to tolerate yet another thread of Imp-Chans "OMG I MARRIED MY MOTHER, PICS INSIDE"

Eh, I dont see Kerry lining up to shove Impy down the aisle either.

He dropped bombs on militant Islamics who butcher and opress their own when they arnt ploting the downfall of the west/buying nukes off the French.

OH NOES, TYRANT


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I don't like to humor the thought of EITHER Bush or Kerry in office, however, I can stand 4 more years of Bush ... while I don't even want to think of Kerry potentially running two terms from today. I'll be voting for Bush because in my mind, he's the lesser evil, he'll be gone sooner. Then, the next voting session, I'll have two new candidates to choose from (assuming how unlikely it is for Kerry to try for another run next election after bitter bitter defeat ^_^).

Oh, and I support Bush's view on gay marriage, too. Though the abortion deal pretty much levels that out in my eyes.

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