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see, we need more *proof* here, not what ppl just think

ie study the real life ninja and pirate fights (see my last post) and then we can decide who'd win. for instance has a specific persion had fights with both pirates and ninja in different films? which fight did they won the easiest

unless we have some direct pirate vs ninja fights documented then we have to go for a control subject who has fought both ninja and pirate enemies

since i proved the concept that 'only a ninja can defeat a ninja' somewhat shaky, theyr'e suddenly not looking all that hardcore

befor eanyone claims Pirates Of The Carribean as a source, they wer e(for the most part) ghost pirates, a whole different kettle of fish, also Orlando Bloom was technically a pirate, thus any wins he had were pirate on pirate affairs...

so, any other examples ppl can quote? hard facts neede here to bring this to a conclusion.

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proradium wrote:
johnny depp° == pirate

johnny depp > *

therefore :: johnny depp > ninjas

therefore :: pirates > ninjas


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This is true. Pirates have a better record of being played by sexy pieces of manmeat.


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Pirates? Ninja?

The British Navy owns both, at the same time.

Pistols on the High seas.
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Pimping in Revolutionary France.
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Getting guns without showering.
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Killing the Frogs and their hated leader, Boney.
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And they have cannons.

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see, we need more *proof* here, not what ppl just think


Ollie makes this un-fun.

Ninjas still win. <3

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Pirates have had conditional blessing of various governments over the centuries.
Ninjas have been disavowed by the japanese several times.
Pirates have over the ages become corporate, while ninjas have more or less become integrated into yakuza operations, and have become an art to almost religious study.
Pirates have basically evolved, with a few drawbacks that still actually raid ships at sea. T
he Ninja are still considered a class of criminal society.
Pirates win as they have integrated into todays society well enough to operate outside of public sight, and still get to rip off poeple, staying true to their origins.


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Actor has pointed out what we had all forgotton, Hornblower and his crew of salted british sailors > Pirates who in turn > Ninjas.

So currently the chart is Thus:

British Royal Navy > Pirates > Ninjas > Warm Weather > French


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I've always wanted to know where (if at all) viking berserkers would fit into the mesh. Hallucinigenic face paint and blood lust is cool. Do they count as an offshoot of pirates?

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@_@ We forgot Vikings

Vikings are....

Mythical

Large damp caucasion menmadadric may rant and rave about how awesome ninja's are, but nothing, NOTHING compares to vikings.

If we were comparing pirates and ninja's to weapons, pirates would be an AK-47, Ninja's would be SMLE Lee-Enfields and Vikings would be a bloody tactical nuke.

Only 4 things stop vikings.

1) God (But with great effort)
2) Vikings themselves sinking the ship in acidental berserker mode
3) An entire laser-rifle battalion (With very heavy losses)
4) No more grog.

As Laser rifles were a down-right rare commodity back in the day, Vikings were only stopped by Her Majesty's Royal Laser Rifle Marine Corps 4 times. Far more common was boats sinking, the grog running dry, and someone not wearing pants (In the wrong way, non-wearing of pants in the right way is entirely acceptable) while praying to Odin.

The best Viking in the universe is Hagar the horrible.
One day Maddox (The best Pirate in the universe) said something nasty about Hagar's admitably bitchy wife and Hagar ruined his shit, kicking his ass into the late 20th century.

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I always considered Vikings to be riced out pirates, which is why I speak of berserkers themselves. Not just anyone can be a berserker, it takes a great deal of sheer strenth, stupidity, and meanness to pull it off. It's a battle of

Pirates:cunning
Ninja:stealth
Berserker:strenth and stamina

Oh and Grey: Eric the Red could totally kick Hagar's ass, but Hagar (the horrible) would trounce Hagar (the mayor of Final Fight city) any day.

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IcyMonkey wrote:
That web page is so obviously biased that I'm not suprised at the poll results. Besides which, popularity does not equal coolness. Hell, in the case of things like music, it's often the exact opposite. Less people like pirates, therefore pirates are more indie and less sell-out, therefore they're cooler. QED.

<img src="http://superkuh.home.comcast.net/killicy.jpg" style="float:left; margin-right:10px;"> It had to be done. Also, I would say pirates were cooler if not for the fluffy shirts and earings. It's a style thing. It is incredibly hard to be badass in a fluffy, pin-stripe shirt. While on the otherhand it is simple to be badass with a ninja mask, one only needs a t-shirt and basic knot tying ability. A demonstration:

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Damn geocities, just click the link for now.


I think we all know who wins. [/BANDWIDTH RAPE]


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I've always considered Vikings a specialized subspecies of pirate, in a similar way that Teenage Mutant Turtles are a specialized subspecies of ninja. I personally prefer normal pirates, though, because the horns just look stupid, to be honest. And Vikings don't have muskets.

Samurai, on the other hand, are distant cousins of the ninja, sharing a common ancestor at some long-ago point in the evolutionary past.

Barbarians are close cousins of pirates, but whereas pirates have adapted to a marine environment, barbarians fill a similar ecological niche on land.

Probably the closest natural equivalent to a ninja-pirate would be a Mongolian, as they are cousins of both samurai and barbarians. It is universally acknowledged that Mongolians kick ass, as the Chinese had to build a big-ass wall just to keep them from flipping out and killing people in China. However, Mongolians are nowhere near as cool as pirates, though cooler than ninjas.

pirates>mongolians>barbarians>teenage mutant ninja turtles>vikings>samurai>hippies>ninja>canadians

[EDIT: Kuh, you're ignoring the particulars. The pirate you're showing us is Seinfeld, whereas the ninja you're showing us is a hot chick. hot chicks>Seinfeld, to such a degree that even making Seinfeld a pirate and the hot chick a ninja wouldn't balance things out. If it were a hot chick pirate vs. a Seinfeld-ninja, on the other hand, I think we all know who'd win.

Oh, and the fact that pirates can wear foofy frills and pin-stripe shirts without looking girly just makes them that much more badass in my book.]


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Oh, and the fact that pirates can wear foofy frills and pin-stripe shirts without looking girly just makes them that much more badass in my book.]


^___^ Icy, you are already enough of a foof. Stop now, while you can.

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IcyMonkey wrote:
I've always considered Vikings a specialized subspecies of pirate, in a similar way that Teenage Mutant Turtles are a specialized subspecies of ninja. I personally prefer normal pirates, though, because the horns just look stupid, to be honest. And Vikings don't have muskets.


Actually, the horn thing just spawned from some opera singer doing it, then it snow-balled from there.

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pirates>canadians>teenage mutant ninja turtles>ninja>mongolians>barbarians>vikings>samurai>hippies>British>Americans>French>Mimes

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Skjie wrote:
pirates>canadians>teenage mutant ninja turtles>ninja>mongolians>barbarians>vikings>samurai>hippies>British>Americans>French>Mimes


So where would a pirate mime be?


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IcyMonkey wrote:
So where would a pirate mime be?


if he looked in a mirror he'd have to kick his own ass

(bonus point if you know the referance)

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IcyMonkey wrote:
Skjie wrote:
pirates>canadians>teenage mutant ninja turtles>ninja>mongolians>barbarians>vikings>samurai>hippies>British>Americans>French>Mimes


So where would a pirate mime be?


Below the British, above the Americans.

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I think his opinions are a bit biased. You must remember this simple fact:


TexAus > All


If you don't know what TexAus is, you had better find out before we knock on your door.


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The bastard child of a Texan and and an Australian? The genetic fusion between George Bush Jr. and Steve Erwin?

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No, the TexAus Empire.


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