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Is it more important to be smart or to be strong
Strength is everything 6%  6%  [ 1 ]
Intelligence is superior 78%  78%  [ 14 ]
There's something more important 17%  17%  [ 3 ]
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Although we can all agree that it's better to be in good health AND be smart, is one more imporant than the other?

Physique vs. Mentality
Body vs. Mind
Strength vs. Intelligence

I'm not going to give a long list of reasons why I believe what I believe, because I'm much better being pedantic with quotes than I am beginning a debate. But:

It is of my opinion that it is more important to be intelligent than it is to be in excellent physical condition. Intelligence, in this day and age, is more of an asset that will allow you to influence the culture. Culture can include the new beliefs, inventions, and a general direction from which to expand, grow, and become "more civilized." Because we are such an advanced society, I believe that a natural disaster might kill millions, but that we have figured out ways to compensate so it is not cataclismic. (Example: NASA's monitering of space debris near the Earth and taking preventive measures from middle-sized to large meteors.)

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I believe smart is more important than strong.

Of course, the fact that I'm reasonably intelligent and reasonably unfit doesn't have anything to do with my opinion.

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Well, I fall into the hardcore galley with ollie. I'm pretty much fit and pretty intelligent, so I cannot answer this question, as both have served me well.


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Well, I fall into the hardcore galley with ollie. I'm pretty much fit and pretty intelligent, so I cannot answer this question, as both have served me well.


Oh, well, I'm in decent shape. I've worked hard to look good and actually love the body I'm in. And... I have a working mind that most people tend to like. So I'd choose both.

But theoretically - which do you prefer?

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I can't really pick. I feel both have their practicalities too much to weigh one over the other. So I think I might just have to play devil's advocate if I participate at all.


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I believe smart is more important than strong.

Of course, the fact that I'm reasonably intelligent and reasonably unfit doesn't have anything to do with my opinion.

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Skjie wrote:
Herbal Enema wrote:
I believe smart is more important than strong.

Of course, the fact that I'm reasonably intelligent and reasonably unfit doesn't have anything to do with my opinion.

Because 99% of anime says so.

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This question is so vague and abstract as to be meaningless.

First of all, it's a matter of personal opinion... Whatever makes you a more fulfilled person, choose that option.

Secondly, comparing strength with intelligencew is like comparing apples to oranges. You can't say whether x amount of strength is better than x amount of smarts, because there's no way to meaningfully measure them using the same criteria. Is being able to lift a 100 pounds equivalent to being able to solve a particular mathematical equation in 100 seconds?

Plus, there's no meaningful way to measure intelligence by itself, either. IQ tests are bullshit.

Anyway, I'm rambling and I highly doubt I making any sense at all. Tired. Thus, sleep.


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It could be argued that morals and ethics and which to be followed are all matters of opinions as well. In fact, when I was taught to debate in my science class, in seventh grade, we all had to state that our stance was opinion. Because debates are arguing on opinions and memes that may or may not be based on several facts (but usually are in a good debate).

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Whatever makes you a more fulfilled person, choose that option.


But to actually have a real debate, which this one is not turning out to be, unfortunately - you would have to figure out why it makes you more fufilled. Actually have causality to back up your opinion, and see if someone is able to point out something new about the other aspect that you had never thought of before. It's meant to gain understanding about ourselves - not to just pick favourites and let that be that.

Meanie. ;_;

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You can work out and such to get stronger, but if you're fundamentally stupid, there's not much that can be done about that.

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Rupert The Guerilla Rat wrote:
...if you're fundamentally stupid, there's not much that can be done about that.


Not true; education plays an enourmous role in one's percieved intelligence. Just having gone to California public schools, I can tell you that richer kids who've been going to better schools tend to seem brighter and learn faster than kids who've gone to crappy schools.

I personally vote for smarts, because getting fit is easier than getting smart.

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Okay, but who would you rather date?

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Hmm... kazebari does point out that being strong is more attractive to the opposite gender, therefore finding a mate and succeeding in spreading your genetics to the next generation... (neccessary?)

But I would chose a gothgirl over those two. ;P

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With brawn I can chase someone and beat the snot out of them.

With brains I can lead my muscle-bound opponent into a snare trap that involve breaking his legs and ramming his face into a sharpened stick. If his face misses, I can do it manually while he's in shock from having his legs snapped in half.

A winner is me.



"But I would chose a gothgirl over those two."

I want you to have my children.

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 Post subject: For the record, I have both wits (according to all tests I've ever taken) and brawn (according to my six-pack).
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Krykry wrote:
I'm pretty much fit and pretty intelligent, so I cannot answer this question, as both have served me well.
I rather think that makes you all the more qualified.

Fitness is better in the individual sense, I would argue. One lives longer, looks better, feels better (both about themselves and in a more physical sense), and generally leads a less complicated life.

Intelligence is better, however, for the group. It contributes to the lasting achievements of mankind in a way mere muscle cannot compare to.

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Brains > brawns

Muscles > man-titties.

Especially in any sort of fight you're likely to get into.

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But I would choose a gothgirl over those two.

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"Especially in any sort of fight you're likely to get into."

Actually, in past experiences, I've usually managed to talk my way out of most fights and even make friends with people who were pissed at me for no apparent reason. In fact, the best way to make friends with another guy is for you and him to beat the crap out of each other.

If it's a serious fight though, I always carry a knife and stay in decent shape. I'd still like to avoid the situation altogether though.

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Brians are useful, but I like being at least a little bit fit.

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Brians are useful as meat shields- I am, fighting companions. But I still prefer brains.

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As immature of me as ever, I picture things in the extremes.

- A small, frail child who's a relative genius and lives to the age of fourteen. Yet the mind ideas inspire countless millions.

- A fitness trainer who lives a long healthy life, dying quickly. The life has been relatively ineffective, but it has been a calm, normal life full of stability and ease.

Arguements:
- The child was probably too intelligent for it's own good and was never able to fully enjoy life because it was not able to comprehend all of what it means to exist. What kind of life to lead is that?
- The trainer, on the other hand, has never questioned faith; has never questioned and explored general moral and its roots. The trainer is vastly unaware of its cruelties towards others, because its been a life of almost complacent ignorance. What kind of life to lead is that?

Both the extremes seem to avoid true happiness...

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- fighting a bully takes strength
- avoiding a fight with reason and rationality takes intelligence

- looking fit and healthy helps increase your attractiveness to others, so you gain a lot of experience and satisfy your primitive urges
- being understanding and knowledgable helps decrease the likelyhood of fights due to insensitivity and may help you be great in the sack (because you'll know how to pleasure her and communicate effectively).

- you get sick rarely
- you always have a cold

- you don't question your existance
- you provide inner conflict from which to grow emotionally

- you are able to work longer and be paid a decent amount
- you go to school and get paid a decent amount for more intellectual persuits

I'm so biased.

. A few of the world's biggest bullies have been calmed by inspiring speeches, novels, or peace treaties. On the off chance that they hear you out, you may win a Nobel Peace Prize. :D (Not likely)
. But then, why do chicks usually flock to computer n3rds? It's a stereotype that nerds, especially internet nerds, compensate for their looks by knowing the sensitive areas of a woman. (although, I don't know if many nerdy girls do the same for guys. I do, but I'm weird.)
. It was always my opinion that those who have suffered are able to understand greater happiness. They've learned to deal with conflict and explored themselves thoroughly to do so. A deeper connection can be made along with deeper understanding and deeper appreciation. Which can ultimately lead one to be happy.
. When you can survive the intellectual persuits in school and succeed, you land high paying jobs that are based on your strengths. I think learning and adapting to a school environment is half the battle. Or looking to find alternative options that will get you just as far (other schools mainly).

. Talking yourself out of a fight doesn't always work - especially when bullies are too dense to understand what you're saying. And then you're deep shit if you can't run as fast. :-/
. I would expect that as one had more sex, the better they would become. I don't know if that would hold true in real life - but they sya practice makes perfect.
. And when you're fit and healthy, you really don't get sick often. So it doesn't interfere with your life more. I noticed this when I went on a health-freak nut period in my life last year. For about 3 months - I had no illness, headaches, colds, digestion problems or anything. It was a wonderful difference from always feeling off. Much better for mood too.
. Some people are much happier living in ignorance. They have a whole system of morals and beliefs that perfect compose their lifes. If they've been raised to be good little Catholics or whatever, who says it's better to be thrown into doubt and have life crisis because everything has been put in such a different perspective?
. Working a steady job is much more secure and safe then having to rely on luck that your genius is recognized.

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Eh. I just feel rambly. Excuse me.

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Herbal Enema wrote:
I believe smart is more important than strong.

Of course, the fact that I'm reasonably intelligent and reasonably unfit doesn't have anything to do with my opinion.


uhm...yeah, that...

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