Vass wrote:
Proin Drakenzol wrote:
Polytheistic - the trinity thing
It's actually a three in one deity and all are technically considered to be one being. Or that's my vague recollection.
The saints and Mary are considered as intermediaries along with all the other angels.
As far as I knew, all three were one being. Three different incarnations, but all the same being. It was more a symbolism thing - God the Creator, God the Saviour, God the Preserver. Or something. I don't know, it's been about three years since I went to church (and four since I was a Christian). Anyone practicing, feel free to correct me.
And... as far as I know, they are a trinity, because a trinity is a symbol of massive power. Lies in old pagan symbolism... etc.
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It represents divinity, the soul of the world, the spirit of man. It is meditation, atonement, completeness--beginning, middle and end. Three represents... control and authority over others[.]
Vass wrote:
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Idol worshipping - that cross dealy they pray to.
That's a sucky suggestion of idol worshipping, you'd have been better off suggesting all the thousands on saint's relics out there, but whatever. Personally I never have gone with worshipping the cross so have no idea what exactly you're on about.
I've not seen many examples of this. The cross is symbolic of the sacrifice Jesus made to save all of mankind. So worshipping the cross, in and of itself, is idoltry - but Christians do not worship the cross. They worship that which the cross reminds them of (Jesus --> God) and are greatful for what it represents (their salvation).
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21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Vass wrote:
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Heathen - we do all know that the christmas tree comes from the druidic religions right? and that almost everything else comes from Greco-Roman and Scandanavian cultures (the goddess Hel became Hell, etc)?
dictionary.com wrote:
Heathen - 1. a. One who adheres to the religion of a people or nation that does not acknowledge the God of Judaism, Christianity, or Islam.
b. Such persons considered as a group; the unconverted.
2. a. One who is regarded as irreligious, uncivilized, or unenlightened.
b. Such persons considered as a group.
Heathen is a rather useless word in that context, but I get what you mean. As far as I'm concerned, the early Christians made a smart move in co-opting deities and religious observances from other religions. It makes it easier for the religion to acquire converts if they can go on with the same celebrations as before. Hinduism has done it as well. Islam, not as much.
The heathen thing made me laugh. Christians are not heathens by definition. They are the ones who call pagans heathens <i>beacause</i> they are not monothiestic, as a form of derogatory name-calling. Like someone calling a male homosexual a faggot to try and make the guy feel bad.