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Author:  Tossrock [ Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:53 am ]
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Oh whoops, my mistake. There's a guy named Blue Sun Missile who frequents these boards who's... <i>interesting</i>. Anyway I just realized you were that other Grim related person, so nevermind.

Author:  Spools [ Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:52 am ]
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Why are you still....

Thank you all so much for turning my re-posted debate into five whole pages. You have truly made my day.

Author:  Itterind [ Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:05 am ]
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Fire does freaky things to some people all of a sudden because they/we don't understand it fully, like with bullets in high speed. In such a way it could be viewed as alive, as humans are often unpredictable.

It is still little more then an apt comparison though.


Aren't discussions on the physical being of God a little presumptious? If God really exists wouldn't God be outside of our understanding, forever?

Ooooh, I like your speech patterns Grimm/Ozymandias... reminds me of so much good :) (even if people hate it quite often).

Author:  Ozymandias [ Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:29 pm ]
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Itterind wrote:
Fire does freaky things to some people all of a sudden because they/we don't understand it fully, like with bullets in high speed. In such a way it could be viewed as alive, as humans are often unpredictable.

It is still little more then an apt comparison though.

But the level of aptitude is interesting; how do we define life? If we define it the strict biological way, then yes, we must accept that fire is not alive; whereas if we define it in a more philosophical sense, then it is possible that we coudl say fire was alive. Thus much depends on what we mean by "alive".
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Aren't discussions on the physical being of God a little presumptious? If God really exists wouldn't God be outside of our understanding, forever?

Depends on the precise nature of any deity; for instance, would the Greek deities be outside said comprehension? I rather suspect not; on the other hand the deity of Mosaic religions (ie, Judaism, Christianity, Islam) is ineffably definitionally and as such, yes, outside our understanding.

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