Ezelek wrote:
Imp-Chan wrote:
Much of this sounds fair, and many of the modifications being talked about are already present in phpBB3.
For example, in that system you can limit the number of emoticons per post, or automatically limit image size, or, I think, you can even set icons for different topics or forums that would indicate subject matter (unless I'm misunderstanding that section of my admin panel). And yes, probation is allowed too, I think I saw a section for that earlier.
One question... for NSFW boards/sections/categories/threads, do NSFW images always need the tag? If not, are there certain types of images that DO need the tag, while others don't? How should those be defined?
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I'll restate, limiting emoticon use in a post is the dumbest thing currently being discussed in this thread. You're trying to "improve" the quality of the post based on your own perception of what is better. Let's also conquer Japan; Those savages worship false gods and idols. Converting them to Christianity would be for the greater good!
Suggestions to upgrade to PHPBB3, whilst understandable, are not really viable. A lot of the forum usability is created through hacks and exploits made by Kyhm; It is doubtful that they would continue to function. Also since he's already started work on the new server, unless he's already decided to move to PHPBB3, I doubt we'll see a change in the board software. This of course is not meant to say that your suggestion is not a good one, simply that it is most likely not viable at this current time.
NSFW, in my opinion, should always carry the tag. Just because a forum is NSFW-viable does not make all the content within NSFW, adding a simple tag to a topic allows people to safely navigate the forum no matter where they are, unless we want to make a forum
specifically for NSFW material, and nothing else. I do not personally see that there is a demand for it.
As for how we determine what is NSFW..? If you looked at it at work, and got in trouble, then it is not safe for work. You can also look at it as if your mother is looking over your shoulder. Do you want her to see that eel entering a lady? Doubtful. In rare occasions I imagine that an admin or mod will have to step in and rule something as NSFW when the tag hasn't been implied, but I am confident that the community is not completely suffering from the dreadful downs, and can identify for itself.
for clarification - i'm guessing by tag ez means putting (NSFW) in the title of a topic. If impy was referring to the modified spoiler code we've proposed, i have this to say;
tagging a thread in a NSFW forum shoudn't be neccesary, since the whole forum is labeled NSFW, but it could be considered polite. I'd like to see more discussion on the etiquette of this matter, and whether ettiquete should become a rule for clarification purposes.
Using the modified spoiler code should be unnecesary in a NSFW thread, on a NSFW board. Other circumstances are up for debate, but i would think that NSFW content in any other situation should probably be hidden under the modded spoiler code - as soon as we make it, of course. As to whether a board should have any NSFW content at all, be it hidden or otherwise, that will be up to the mods and/or communities of particular boards.
What is and isn't NSFW is unfortunately somewhat subjective, but a common sense rule is good enough here i think. As ez said, if you'd get in trouble for looking at it, or reading it, (or possibly saying it? this may be going too far...) then assume it's NSFW and play it on the safe side. Also, use the code for comedy value at your own discretion.
I have to agree that limiting or removing emoteicons is dumb. if people overuse them, we just call them retarded, or you can report the post for the user being reterded.
If it annoys users, then it will be brought to the mod's attention. if no-one cares it will not become an issue. THE FIRST STEP SHOULD BE THE USERS UTILIZING THE REPORT SYSTEM TO DECIDE WHAT THEY LIKE AND WHAT GIVES THEM THE SHITS.
probational bans could be a good way of recording warning flags. even if the ban lasts only for an hour, it will point to the fact that a mod or admin had to step in and do something to fix a situation. It will help leave a 'paper trail' of mod and admin involvement for other mods and admins to refer to for repeat offendors etc.
Honestly, i don't see there being many problems like this, but we might as well decide on the infrastructure now so that if the situation does arise, everybody knows what's going on to limit the running and the screaming.